unsolvable level 138 from microban

[sokoban]

Hello,

It seems to me that Sokoban's level 138 from Microban is unsolvable.

level 138 from Microban from
http://www.artsoft.org/RELEASES/rocksnd ... -1.0.0.zip
taken from http://www.artsoft.org/rocksndiamonds/levels.html

comments?

[Zomis]

I agree. Seems like one object is missing. There are 5 fields and only 4 objects, making it unsolveable.

I runned RND Scripter BETA 3 (will be released soon) on some of those Sokoban levelsets with a "Sokoban level check" script and it returned the following:

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NOTE: Fields and objects unequal, found (fields, objects): 20, 24
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_mas_sasquatch\048.level

NOTE: Fields and objects unequal, found (fields, objects): 19, 18
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_mas_sasquatch\020.level

NOTE: Fields and objects unequal, found (fields, objects): 6, 7
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sasquatch_1\015.level

NOTE: There should be only one player on the map, there are: 0
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sasquatch_1\006.level

NOTE: Element is not Sokoban-related: 345
NOTE: Element is not Sokoban-related: 7
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sasquatch_3\048.level

NOTE: Fields and objects unequal, found (fields, objects): 4, 8
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sasquatch_4\008.level

NOTE: Fields and objects unequal, found (fields, objects): 6, 5
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sokomania_spaceship_1\032.level

NOTE: Fields and objects unequal, found (fields, objects): 2, 3
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sokomania_spaceship_2\339.level

NOTE: There should be only one player on the map, there are: 0
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sokomania_spaceship_2\254.level

NOTE: Fields and objects unequal, found (fields, objects): 15, 14
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sokomania_spaceship_2\202.level

NOTE: There should be only one player on the map, there are: 0
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sokomania_spaceship_2\198.level

NOTE: Fields and objects unequal, found (fields, objects): 7, 4
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sokomania_spaceship_2\146.level

NOTE: Fields and objects unequal, found (fields, objects): 9, 7
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sokomania_spaceship_2\134.level

NOTE: Fields and objects unequal, found (fields, objects): 13, 12
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sokomania_spaceship_2\029.level

Gravity port making level unsolveable in
C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sokomania_spaceship_1\004.level
(I found that thing by manually, by pure luck. Let me know if you want a script to do those checks )

Also note that I skipped the "Element is sokoban related" check for the sb_sokomania_spaceship levelsets. Running that check as well would result in a lot of reports about sokoban unrelated elements.

The "Is sokoban level" script is based on the Rules for Sokoban levels in the RnD documentation by Francesco

[Zomis]

Gravity port making level unsolveable in
C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sokomania_spaceship_1\004.level
(I found that thing by manually, by pure luck. Let me know if you want a script to do those checks )

Too late, just added a few lines in my current script to make that check

No more gravity ports found

[sokoban]

It seems to me that Sokoban's level 138 from Microban is unsolvable.

level 138 from Microban from
http://www.artsoft.org/RELEASES/rocksnd ... -1.0.0.zip
taken from http://www.artsoft.org/rocksndiamonds/levels.html

comments?

Hi,

I just wanted to let you know that of all 155 level of microban, only level 138 is unsolvable.

[Holger]

> I just wanted to let you know that of all 155 level of microban, only level
> 138 is unsolvable.

That's good to know! Do you have the tape files from solving them? They could then be added as reference solutions to this set!

[sokoban]

> I just wanted to let you know that of all 155 level of microban, only level
> 138 is unsolvable.

That's good to know! Do you have the tape files from solving them? They could then be added as reference solutions to this set!

sent via email to info@artsoft.org

[Holger]

Thanks! :-)

[sokoban]

I agree. Seems like one object is missing. There are 5 fields and only 4 objects, making it unsolveable.

I runned RND Scripter BETA 3 (will be released soon) on some of those Sokoban levelsets with a "Sokoban level check" script and it returned the following:

Code: Select all

NOTE: There should be only one player on the map, there are: 0
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sasquatch_1\006.level

I just ran into this. Indeed level 6 in sasquatch is pretty hard to win.

[sokoban]

is the level 4 of the sb sokomania_spaceship_1 solveable?

what folks think?

[Zomis]

I quote myself:

Gravity port making level unsolveable in
C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sokomania_spaceship_1\004.level

So the answer is: No, that level is not solveable because of the gravity port.

[sokoban]

I quote myself:

Gravity port making level unsolveable in
C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sokomania_spaceship_1\004.level

So the answer is: No, that level is not solveable because of the gravity port.

ah, so this is what gravity port is.

[Emceegy]

Hi

Can the level be edited to add the missing element in Microban level 138 ?

I tried adding Readonly: false to the config file but I am not allowed to save it

That is using notepad in Windows7 64 bit

The game runs fine

Emceegy