unsolvable level 138 from microban

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unsolvable level 138 from microban

Post by sokoban » Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:34 pm

Hello,

It seems to me that Sokoban's level 138 from Microban is unsolvable.

level 138 from Microban from
http://www.artsoft.org/RELEASES/rocksnd ... -1.0.0.zip
taken from http://www.artsoft.org/rocksndiamonds/levels.html

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Post by Zomis » Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:17 pm

I agree. Seems like one object is missing. There are 5 fields and only 4 objects, making it unsolveable.

I runned RND Scripter BETA 3 (will be released soon) on some of those Sokoban levelsets with a "Sokoban level check" script and it returned the following:

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NOTE: Fields and objects unequal, found (fields, objects): 20, 24
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_mas_sasquatch\048.level

NOTE: Fields and objects unequal, found (fields, objects): 19, 18
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_mas_sasquatch\020.level

NOTE: Fields and objects unequal, found (fields, objects): 6, 7
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sasquatch_1\015.level

NOTE: There should be only one player on the map, there are: 0
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sasquatch_1\006.level

NOTE: Element is not Sokoban-related: 345
NOTE: Element is not Sokoban-related: 7
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sasquatch_3\048.level

NOTE: Fields and objects unequal, found (fields, objects): 4, 8
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sasquatch_4\008.level

NOTE: Fields and objects unequal, found (fields, objects): 6, 5
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sokomania_spaceship_1\032.level

NOTE: Fields and objects unequal, found (fields, objects): 2, 3
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sokomania_spaceship_2\339.level

NOTE: There should be only one player on the map, there are: 0
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sokomania_spaceship_2\254.level

NOTE: Fields and objects unequal, found (fields, objects): 15, 14
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sokomania_spaceship_2\202.level

NOTE: There should be only one player on the map, there are: 0
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sokomania_spaceship_2\198.level

NOTE: Fields and objects unequal, found (fields, objects): 7, 4
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sokomania_spaceship_2\146.level

NOTE: Fields and objects unequal, found (fields, objects): 9, 7
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sokomania_spaceship_2\134.level

NOTE: Fields and objects unequal, found (fields, objects): 13, 12
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sokomania_spaceship_2\029.level
Gravity port making level unsolveable in
C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sokomania_spaceship_1\004.level
(I found that thing by manually, by pure luck. Let me know if you want a script to do those checks ;))

Also note that I skipped the "Element is sokoban related" check for the sb_sokomania_spaceship levelsets. Running that check as well would result in a lot of reports about sokoban unrelated elements.

The "Is sokoban level" script is based on the Rules for Sokoban levels in the RnD documentation by Francesco

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Post by Zomis » Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:41 pm

Zomis wrote:Gravity port making level unsolveable in
C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sokomania_spaceship_1\004.level
(I found that thing by manually, by pure luck. Let me know if you want a script to do those checks ;))
Too late, just added a few lines in my current script to make that check ;)

No more gravity ports found :)

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Re: unsolvable level 138 from microban

Post by sokoban » Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:57 pm

sokoban wrote: It seems to me that Sokoban's level 138 from Microban is unsolvable.

level 138 from Microban from
http://www.artsoft.org/RELEASES/rocksnd ... -1.0.0.zip
taken from http://www.artsoft.org/rocksndiamonds/levels.html

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Hi,

I just wanted to let you know that of all 155 level of microban, only level 138 is unsolvable.

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Post by Holger » Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:24 pm

> I just wanted to let you know that of all 155 level of microban, only level
> 138 is unsolvable.

That's good to know! Do you have the tape files from solving them? They could then be added as reference solutions to this set!

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Post by sokoban » Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:46 am

Holger wrote:> I just wanted to let you know that of all 155 level of microban, only level
> 138 is unsolvable.

That's good to know! Do you have the tape files from solving them? They could then be added as reference solutions to this set!
sent via email to info@artsoft.org

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Post by Holger » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:57 pm

Thanks! :-)

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Post by sokoban » Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:59 pm

Zomis wrote: I agree. Seems like one object is missing. There are 5 fields and only 4 objects, making it unsolveable.

I runned RND Scripter BETA 3 (will be released soon) on some of those Sokoban levelsets with a "Sokoban level check" script and it returned the following:

Code: Select all

NOTE: There should be only one player on the map, there are: 0
Processing Level: C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sasquatch_1\006.level
I just ran into this. Indeed level 6 in sasquatch is pretty hard to win.

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SB sokomania_spaceship_1 level4

Post by sokoban » Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:44 pm

is the level 4 of the sb sokomania_spaceship_1 solveable?

what folks think?

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Post by Zomis » Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:22 pm

I quote myself:
Zomis wrote:Gravity port making level unsolveable in
C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sokomania_spaceship_1\004.level
So the answer is: No, that level is not solveable because of the gravity port.

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Post by sokoban » Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:16 pm

Zomis wrote:I quote myself:
Zomis wrote:Gravity port making level unsolveable in
C:\Documents and Settings\Zomis\My Documents\Rocks'n'Diamonds\levels\Extra\Sokoban\sb_sokomania_spaceship_1\004.level
So the answer is: No, that level is not solveable because of the gravity port.
ah, so this is what gravity port is.

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Post by Emceegy » Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:50 pm

Hi

Can the level be edited to add the missing element in Microban level 138 ?

I tried adding Readonly: false to the config file but I am not allowed to save it

That is using notepad in Windows7 64 bit

The game runs fine

Emceegy

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