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Contributions 2004/05 bugs.

Post by bojster » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:11 am

Level 2 in Remco Mooij's levelset (Cont. 2004) is unsolavable - I can't enter exit due to gravity. It's the same bug that was removed between 3.0.8 and 3.1.0(-pre?) if I remember correctly (reference for Holger: my mail from 30.12.03 and your reply from 01.02.04). I have no idea why this bug is here again. Also, the original tape provided with this level does not work as it should.

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Post by bojster » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:55 am

Level 17 in Falk Sobe's levelset seems unsolvable (falling wall blocks the passage after the second spaceship passes, so I either can't clear the dirt [if I stay on the right side] or get back [if I go to the left side before the wall collapses]) and the tape is totally broken.

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Post by Holger » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:09 am

> Level 2 in Remco Mooij's levelset (Cont. 2004) is unsolavable - I can't
> enter exit due to gravity. It's the same bug that was removed between
> 3.0.8 and 3.1.0(-pre?)
[...]
> I have no idea why this bug is here again.

You are right -- this is a program (engine) bug. I also have no idea why it's there, but I'll check and fix this.

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Post by Holger » Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:00 am

> Level 17 in Falk Sobe's levelset seems unsolvable

Unfortunately, there are quite a few tapes in the Contributions package that do not work with the current version 3.1.1 for whatever reason. Sometimes they were recorded with earlier versions (pre-release versions, for example) and do not work with 3.1.1. anymore. (Those tapes which worked with release versions like 3.1.0 before should usually also work with 3.1.1, so most broken tapes never ever worked with any version.)

Here's a list of those tapes which are missing or known to be broken:

("HANDICAP" means that a certain level could not be solved and all subsequent levels were also not solved due to enabled handicap.)

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Contributions_1995-2000
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notes: - missing tapes: rnd_ben_braithwaite 050 - 099 [level 050 unsolvable]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_martin_herrmann 010 - 011 [HANDICAP]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_pavel_machek 001 - 008 [level 001 unsolvable]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_stephan_beyer 001 - 010 [level 001 unsolvable]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_tobias_authmann 012 [NO EXIT - FIXED / NOT SOLVED]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_visa_hastrup 000 [level 000 unsolvable (no exit)]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_visa_hastrup 014, 015 [HANDICAP]
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LEVELDIR 'rnd_ben_braithwaite', SOLVED 50/50 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_charles_briscoe-smith', SOLVED 4/4 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_gerhard_haeusler', SOLVED 51/51 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_jan_hubicka', SOLVED 19/19 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_kimball_robinson', SOLVED 26/26 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_kjell_kristiansson', SOLVED 17/17 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_martin_herrmann', SOLVED 10/10 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_pavel_machek', SOLVED 1/1 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_tobias_authmann', SOLVED 12/12 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_visa_hastrup', SOLVED 13/13 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_warwick_allison', SOLVED 3/3 (100%)


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Contributions_2001
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notes: - missing tapes: rnd_ben_braithwaite_2 063 - 199 [HANDICAP]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_glenn_alexander 004 - 020 [HANDICAP]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_paul_sutton 001 - 002 [?]
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LEVELDIR 'rnd_arno_luppold', SOLVED 58/58 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_barak_shacked', SOLVED 4/4 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_ben_braithwaite_2', SOLVED 63/63 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_ben_braithwaite_3', SOLVED 10/10 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_dominik_seichter', SOLVED 12/12 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_emilio_hemken', SOLVED 13/13 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_glenn_alexander', SOLVED 3/3 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_helge_hafting', SOLVED 1/1 (100%)


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Contributions_2002
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notes: - missing tapes: rnd_abby_king 002, 003, 005, 006 [?]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_conor_mancone 014, 015 [?]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_david_hutchinson 004 - 025 [HANDICAP]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_gerrit_holl 008 - 043 [HANDICAP]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_jerome_kunegis 031 - 100 [level 030 fixed & solved]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_sylvan_hancock 006 - 039 [HANDICAP]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_yamyam_palace 014 - 063 [HANDICAP]
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LEVELDIR 'rnd_abby_king', SOLVED 10/10 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_alan_bond', SOLVED 30/30 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_conor_mancone', SOLVED 13/15 (86%), FAILED: 014 015
LEVELDIR 'rnd_david_hutchinson', SOLVED 3/3 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_equinox_tetrachloride', SOLVED 50/50 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_equinox_tetrachloride_ii', SOLVED 100/100 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_gerrit_holl', SOLVED 7/7 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_jerome_kunegis', SOLVED 30/30 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_ruediger_schaefer', SOLVED 100/100 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_sylvan_hancock', SOLVED 5/5 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_yamyam_palace', SOLVED 13/13 (100%)


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Contributions_2003
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notes: - missing tapes: rnd_audrius_saikunas 001 - 004 [?]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_efraim_yawitz 014 - 020 [HANDICAP]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_gavin_davidson 033 042 049 052 054 [?]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_randy_johannessen 014, 017 [?]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_richard_valvona 003 [HANDICAP]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_sam_bateman 029 [level 029 unsolvable]
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LEVELDIR 'rnd_andreas_buschbeck', SOLVED 85/85 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_edward_leuf', SOLVED 10/10 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_efraim_yawitz', SOLVED 13/13 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_emanuel_schmieg', SOLVED 22/22 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_gavin_davidson', SOLVED 51/56 (91%), FAILED: 033 042 049 052 054
LEVELDIR 'rnd_jonathan_alligood', SOLVED 39/39 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_jorge_jordan', SOLVED 17/17 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_krystian_abramowicz', SOLVED 100/100 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_paul_e_collins_iii', SOLVED 64/64 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_rafael_gatti', SOLVED 17/17 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_randy_johannessen', SOLVED 15/16 (93%), FAILED: 014
LEVELDIR 'rnd_richard_kleber', SOLVED 7/7 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_richard_valvona', SOLVED 2/2 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_ryan_pineda', SOLVED 15/15 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_sam_bateman', SOLVED 34/35 (97%), FAILED: 029
LEVELDIR 'rnd_sebastian_simon', SOLVED 12/12 (100%)


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Contributions_2004
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notes: - missing tapes: rnd_dorothee_ebner 001 - 106 [?]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_dorothee_ebner_ii 001 - 073 [?]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_dorothee_ebner_iii 001 - 013 [?]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_dorothee_ebner_iv 001 - 063 [?]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_falk_sobe 001 ... 051 [?] (see below for details)
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_martijn_mooij 002 [?]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_norbert_de_jonge 001 [?]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_philip_winter 005 011 017 018 019 [?]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_rado_negundo_ii 001 - 063 [?]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_rado_negundo_iii 001 - 072 [?]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_rado_negundo_iv 001 - 020 [?]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_rado_negundo_v 029 [?]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_remco_mooij 002 004 008 016 017 [?]
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LEVELDIR 'rnd_andrzej_grzesik', SOLVED 50/50 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_benoit_karriere', SOLVED 8/8 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_benoit_karriere_ii', SOLVED 8/8 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_eden_corbin', SOLVED 31/31 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_falk_sobe', SOLVED 34/47 (72%), FAILED: 001 004 015 017 019 021 024 027 039 042 048 050 051
LEVELDIR 'rnd_martijn_mooij', SOLVED 14/15 (93%), FAILED: 002
LEVELDIR 'rnd_niko_boehm', SOLVED 25/25 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_norbert_de_jonge', SOLVED 1/2 (50%), FAILED: 001
LEVELDIR 'rnd_philip_winter', SOLVED 15/20 (75%), FAILED: 005 011 017 018 019
LEVELDIR 'rnd_rado_negundo', SOLVED 50/50 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_rado_negundo_v', SOLVED 30/31 (96%), FAILED: 029
LEVELDIR 'rnd_remco_mooij', SOLVED 13/18 (72%), FAILED: 002 004 008 016 017
LEVELDIR 'rnd_xinyu_sun_and_xiangdong_wen', SOLVED 4/4 (100%)


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Contributions_2005
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notes: - missing tapes: rnd_bill_cotter 001 007 012 013 016 024 [?]
notes: - missing tapes: rnd_spica 004 ... 084 [?] (see below for details)
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LEVELDIR 'rnd_bill_cotter', SOLVED 19/25 (76%), FAILED: 001 007 012 013 016 024
LEVELDIR 'rnd_bojster', SOLVED 7/7 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_rado_negundo_vi', SOLVED 11/11 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_rado_negundo_vii', SOLVED 55/55 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_spica', SOLVED 82/100 (82%), FAILED: 004 008 015 020 028 034 036 038 056 057 061 063 064 075 077 080 081 084


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other levels
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LEVELDIR 'rnd_tutorial_aaron_davidson', SOLVED 26/26 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_tutorial_niko_boehm', SOLVED 40/40 (100%)

LEVELDIR 'classic_sokoban', SOLVED 50/50 (100%)

LEVELDIR 'BD2K3', SOLVED 43/43 (100%)

LEVELDIR 'jue1', SOLVED 61/61 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'jue2', SOLVED 16/16 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'machine', SOLVED 1/1 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'game_inside', SOLVED 1/1 (100%)

LEVELDIR 'doctor_sloan_ww', SOLVED 30/30 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'doctor_sloan_wg', SOLVED 50/50 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'doctor_sloan_wf', SOLVED 100/100 (100%)

LEVELDIR 'ab_levelset1', SOLVED 85/85 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'ab_levelset2', SOLVED 53/53 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'ab_levelset3', SOLVED 26/26 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'ab_levelset4', SOLVED 17/17 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'andreas-NEW1', SOLVED 85/85 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'andreas-NEW2', SOLVED 53/53 (100%)


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NOTES:
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LEVELDIR 'classic_boulderdash', SOLVED 80/100 (80%), FAILED: 012 016 019 026 031 032 056 066 070 076 078 081 082 085 090 091 094 096 097 099
(tested with 3.0.8, 3.1.0, 3.1.1)
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Post by Martijn » Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:54 pm

I see that these contributions have not been fixed yet. I have an addition to the list Holger mentioned in his reply:
in Contributions 1998, Ben Braithwaite, all levels can always be fixed, because you don't have to collect emeralds. I think this is a bug as well.

In how far have these levels from the list been fixed? Otherwise we should fix them shortly. I would like to do the work, but then I would like to have the most recent list (it may be that some of these levels have already been fixed, by yoshi or so).
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Post by Holger » Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:27 am

That would be cool!

I'll provide an updated list soon!

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Post by Martijn » Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:25 am

Holger wrote:That would be cool!

I'll provide an updated list soon!
When? I would like to have them fixed! If you give me the list, I will complete the work.
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Post by Holger » Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:18 pm

Here's the latest list, updated to the final 3.2.0 engine:

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LEVELDIR 'doctor_sloan_ese', SOLVED 26/32 (81%), FAILED: 005 009 018 022 023 025
LEVELDIR 'rnd_conor_mancone', SOLVED 13/15 (86%), FAILED: 014 015
LEVELDIR 'rnd_gavin_davidson', SOLVED 51/56 (91%), FAILED: 033 042 049 052 054
LEVELDIR 'rnd_randy_johannessen', SOLVED 15/16 (93%), FAILED: 014
LEVELDIR 'rnd_sam_bateman', SOLVED 34/35 (97%), FAILED: 029
LEVELDIR 'rnd_falk_sobe', SOLVED 34/47 (72%), FAILED: 001 004 015 017 019 021 024 027 039 042 048 050 051
LEVELDIR 'rnd_martijn_mooij', SOLVED 14/15 (93%), FAILED: 002
LEVELDIR 'rnd_norbert_de_jonge', SOLVED 1/2 (50%), FAILED: 001
LEVELDIR 'rnd_philip_winter', SOLVED 15/20 (75%), FAILED: 005 011 017 018 019
LEVELDIR 'rnd_rado_negundo_v', SOLVED 30/31 (96%), FAILED: 029
LEVELDIR 'rnd_remco_mooij', SOLVED 13/18 (72%), FAILED: 002 004 008 016 017
LEVELDIR 'rnd_bill_cotter', SOLVED 19/25 (76%), FAILED: 001 007 012 013 016 024
LEVELDIR 'rnd_spica', SOLVED 82/100 (82%), FAILED: 004 008 015 020 028 034 036 038 056 057 061 063 064 075 077 080 081 084
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All other sets were reported to be 100% solvable. I'll add them for reference here, too:

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LEVELDIR 'R&D_Puzznic', SOLVED 30/30 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'R&D_West', SOLVED 10/10 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'game_inside', SOLVED 1/1 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'jue1_edition', SOLVED 40/40 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'machine', SOLVED 1/1 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'puzzle_mix', SOLVED 60/60 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'BD2K3', SOLVED 43/43 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'snake_bite', SOLVED 30/30 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'snake_bite_jue', SOLVED 40/40 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'doctor_sloan_ww', SOLVED 30/30 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'doctor_sloan_wg', SOLVED 50/50 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'doctor_sloan_wf', SOLVED 100/100 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'ab_levelset1', SOLVED 85/85 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'ab_levelset2', SOLVED 53/53 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'ab_levelset3', SOLVED 26/26 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'ab_levelset4', SOLVED 17/17 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'andreas-NEW1', SOLVED 85/85 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'andreas-NEW2', SOLVED 53/53 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'classic_sokoban', SOLVED 50/50 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_tutorial_aaron_davidson', SOLVED 26/26 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_tutorial_niko_boehm', SOLVED 40/40 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'Boulder_Dash_Dream', SOLVED 102/102 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'Master-Rocks', SOLVED 5/5 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_jan_hubicka', SOLVED 19/19 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_warwick_allison', SOLVED 3/3 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_gerhard_haeusler', SOLVED 51/51 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_martin_herrmann', SOLVED 10/10 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_pavel_machek', SOLVED 1/1 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_visa_hastrup', SOLVED 13/13 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_ben_braithwaite', SOLVED 50/50 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_charles_briscoe-smith', SOLVED 4/4 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_kimball_robinson', SOLVED 26/26 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_kjell_kristiansson', SOLVED 17/17 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_tobias_authmann', SOLVED 12/12 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_arno_luppold', SOLVED 58/58 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_barak_shacked', SOLVED 4/4 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_ben_braithwaite_2', SOLVED 63/63 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_ben_braithwaite_3', SOLVED 10/10 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_dominik_seichter', SOLVED 12/12 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_emilio_hemken', SOLVED 13/13 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_glenn_alexander', SOLVED 3/3 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_helge_hafting', SOLVED 1/1 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_abby_king', SOLVED 10/10 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_alan_bond', SOLVED 30/30 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_david_hutchinson', SOLVED 3/3 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_equinox_tetrachloride', SOLVED 50/50 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_equinox_tetrachloride_ii', SOLVED 100/100 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_gerrit_holl', SOLVED 7/7 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_jerome_kunegis', SOLVED 30/30 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_ruediger_schaefer', SOLVED 100/100 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_sylvan_hancock', SOLVED 5/5 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_yamyam_palace', SOLVED 13/13 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_andreas_buschbeck', SOLVED 85/85 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_edward_leuf', SOLVED 10/10 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_efraim_yawitz', SOLVED 13/13 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_emanuel_schmieg', SOLVED 22/22 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_jonathan_alligood', SOLVED 39/39 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_jorge_jordan', SOLVED 17/17 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_krystian_abramowicz', SOLVED 100/100 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_paul_e_collins_iii', SOLVED 64/64 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_rafael_gatti', SOLVED 17/17 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_richard_kleber', SOLVED 7/7 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_richard_valvona', SOLVED 2/2 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_ryan_pineda', SOLVED 15/15 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_sebastian_simon', SOLVED 12/12 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_andrzej_grzesik', SOLVED 50/50 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_benoit_karriere', SOLVED 8/8 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_benoit_karriere_ii', SOLVED 8/8 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_bojster', SOLVED 7/7 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_eden_corbin', SOLVED 31/31 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_niko_boehm', SOLVED 25/25 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_rado_negundo', SOLVED 50/50 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_xinyu_sun_and_xiangdong_wen', SOLVED 4/4 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_martijn_mooij_ii', SOLVED 32/32 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_martijn_mooij_iii', SOLVED 35/35 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_rado_negundo_vi', SOLVED 11/11 (100%)
LEVELDIR 'rnd_rado_negundo_vii', SOLVED 55/55 (100%)
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Post by HerzAusGold » Sun Jul 16, 2006 7:17 am

Hi Holger,
once you have promised that you provide a list,
which levels can be solved only with compatible mode ON,
using some quirks from older versions or using double speed.

Dont know if it is time now...
And the answer is ... 42 !

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Post by Martijn » Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:46 pm

I've begun fixing the levels. As it's very boring work, I only do a few a day. I hope to have it ready on 26th July. I will also provide the right tapes then. I'm sorry, but it's too boring to do too much on one day...
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Post by Martijn » Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:46 pm

What's this? Many of these levels can just be finished, only the tapes are broken! I can remember that I recorded all the tapes for the levels of my brother (Remco Mooij, Contributions 2004). And now the tapes of five levels are broken! Isn't my work in vain if I record new tapes again now? It takes a lot of work, so it must be really worth it!

The same to Bill Cotter's levels. If I have to create tapes for these very frustrating levels (one half an hour for one level, without dying), it takes a lot of time! And why? If the tapes are broken later, I think it's worthless to do so.

Holger, do you know why these tapes are all broken?

Maybe it's better that I fix the levels only and not create tapes for all of them? Just leave the tapes as they are? Otherwise it will take me a year to complete this!

Anyway, I've completed the Contribution by Spica (which contains many levels), and I also have the new tapes for all these fixed levels.

I will try what I can do, but I don't want to spend endless hours on creating tapes, to be honest! Can't we distribute the tape recording work to the forum members on a later moment? As long as the levels themselves are fixed, it's already enough for now, I think...

Well, Holger (and others), let me know if you like this idea...
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Post by RAP » Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:52 pm

Martijn wrote:The same to Bill Cotter's levels. If I have to create tapes for
these very frustrating levels (one half an hour for one level, without dying), it
takes a lot of time! And why? If the tapes are broken later, I think it's
worthless to do so.
Just save the tape in the level while you continue to play the level.
BTW: Maybe I could help you make you new tapes for you.

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Post by Francesco » Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:58 pm

Holger wrote:LEVELDIR 'Master-Rocks', SOLVED 5/5 (100%)
...well, this is not really part of the 2004/05 contributions ;)
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Post by Holger » Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:05 pm

> What's this? Many of these levels can just be finished, only the tapes are
> broken!

Yep, that's right. I get quite some level sets that contain solution tapes that do not work! Sometimes the reason is that these levels/tapes were created with pre-release versions (which is not recommended), sometimes it seems that the tapes never worked with any (even older) version I tried out. (Although the game version is stored in the tape file, so it's easy to determine the "correct" game version -- but sometimes even this version does not correctly run those tapes!)

A few tapes were correctly working with the game versions they were created with, but unfortunately reached my automated test cases too late, so that there were engine changes that caused broken tapes that were impossible to detect in time.

I will check again for the sets you mentioned if these tapes were ever working with any version, or if they were always broken both with their original and with the latest version.

In any case: Thanks a lot for your hard work! I know too good how much time it takes to re-record tapes for some levels, so I really appreciate your work!

> BTW: Maybe I could help you make you new tapes for you.

Just report which of the above tapes were done, so there is no double work.

> > LEVELDIR 'Master-Rocks', SOLVED 5/5 (100%)
> ...well, this is not really part of the 2004/05 contributions

True! This thread was started in 2005... ;-)

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Post by Holger » Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:10 pm

> once you have promised that you provide a list,
> which levels can be solved only with compatible mode ON,
> using some quirks from older versions or using double speed.

Ah, yes, I have to create this list again. Completely disabling compatibility mode will result in most tapes being broken, even only skipping the "double speed" compatibility switch will result in all corresponding tapes being broken. So maybe it's easier to just save these levels with "normal speed" again and re-record all tapes for those sets... Not sure now.

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