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GE - Check additions

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:50 am
by Don Shadow
Is it possible, to make a random "checking" of the GEs, so that all elements it contains arrive 1 times, but in random order ? I mean like (by 3 elements):

-> 3,1,2 - 1,3,2 - 2,1,3 - 3,2,1 - etc

Example, random is like that: 1,3,2,1,2,2,1,3,1,2
Loop: 1,2,3,1,2,3
Linear: 1,2,3,3,3

That is the one thing that is needed yet.

Sorry for my gramar and stuff, I am tired a bit now... so early at 13:50......

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:16 pm
by Holger
> Is it possible, to make a random "checking" of the GEs, so that all elements it contains arrive
> 1 times, but in random order ? I mean like (by 3 elements):
>
> -> 3,1,2 - 1,3,2 - 2,1,3 - 3,2,1 - etc
>
> Example, random is like that: 1,3,2,1,2,2,1,3,1,2
> Loop: 1,2,3,1,2,3
> Linear: 1,2,3,3,3

What about the "group element" option "choice type" set to "random"?
I think it should do exactly what you described.
Or did I miss anything?

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 5:32 pm
by Zomis
Believe it or not, but I actually understand richard about this one :)

He means that first, all elements should arrive in random order before an element is allowed to appear again.
Like the GE with elements 1, 2 and 3

If 1 arrives first, then the GE can only choose between 2 and 3.
Then if 2 comes, then the 3 is next, but if the 3 comes after 1 then 2 is next.
And then a new one is randomized and the procedure is repeated.

Understand?

My opinion on this:
Sounds useful somehow, and also possible but it would require some more variables (including memory and time). Whether it should be implemented or not, I let Holger decide.

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:13 am
by Holger
Yes, now I understand it! :-)

If this should really be useful for some purpose, it shouldn't be too hard to implement.
It could be added as an additional option "pseudo-random".

But for what purpose could it be used then? Just curious... :-)

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 2:26 pm
by Don Shadow
> But for what purpose could it be used then? Just curious...

I have there my plans about that... and I can already think of 1 example...

> pseudo-random

Hmm... a bit weird name, sounds like the level creator would be a bit crazy lol... I would say "Loop in random Sequence" or something like that, or not, whatever. :)

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 5:25 pm
by Holger
Yes, "random loop" would maybe be a better name... :-)

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 12:03 pm
by kjr
This is called "shuffle" by CD players and media players.

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 11:23 pm
by Zomis
kjr wrote:This is called "shuffle" by CD players and media players.
yes, but some CD players can choose something like 1-3-1-2-2-3 if there's only 3 songs on the CD.
Which means, they don't shuffle through them all before they starts an entirely new random (shuffle) sequence.

I know that probably not many CD players do this, but mine does unfortunately...