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puzzletopia 8 stroll delays
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dustin
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DUSTIN                            2025-12-27 20:43
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INSPIRED BY arno 1539 "A QUIET STROLL II"!  
  
NOTE THAT ONLY ROOMS 1-3 HAVE TO BE SOLVED. TOGETHER WITH THE TRIVIAL ΑΑΑ FROM ROOMS ? AND !, IT'S ENOUGH TO OPEN THE Ξ!

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ARNO                              2025-12-28 16:41
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VERY CLEVER ONE! ;-D

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DUSTIN                            2025-12-28 17:54
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HEHE :D

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DUSTIN                            2025-12-28 18:31
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ACTUALLY, YOUR SCORE PUZZLES ME, arno! IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE GOT EXACTLY ONE BONUS Α, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU DID THAT WITHOUT AT LEAST TWO MORE ΑΑ BEING FREE TO TAKE :D  
  
NOW I HAVE SOME FAINT IDEAS HOW THIS MIGHT WORK, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY NOTHING INTENDED :D

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ARNO                              2025-12-28 22:24
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GOT IT! I OVERLOOKED SOMETHING THAT GIVES 3 BONUS\\\ INDEED! :-D  
  
MY PREVIOUS RUN HANDLES THE "?" AND "!" ROOMS QUITE DIFFERENTLY, WHERE I SACRIFICED 2 \\ FOR 3 EXTRA, SO EFFECTIVELY 1 BONUS\ AS YOU SUSPECTED!  
  
WHAT'S STILL FUNNY, HOWEVER, IS THAT RUN CONTAINS AT LEAST 2 CURIOSITIES WHICH ARE NOT APPLIED IN THE 3 BONUS\\\ SOLUTION. I WILL EXPLAIN THEM LATER WHEN WE SHARE THE DEMOS, BUT FOR THIS REASON I WAS QUITE CONVINCED THAT MY FIRST RUN WAS THE INTENDED BONUS\ SOLUTION! ;-D

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DUSTIN                            2025-12-29 13:07
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IT'S FUNNY - I WAS SO FOCUSED ON THE MECHANISM TO MAKE AN IMPOSSIBLE DELAY POSSIBLE THAT I OVERLOOKED THE POSSIBILITY TO BLAST THROUGH THE ΙΙΙ! :D

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DUSTIN                            2026-01-02 20:00
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MY SOLUTIO FREE! :D  
  
GENERAL EXPLANATION:  
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LIKE arno'S CAVE, THIS IS ABOUT GIVING THE RIGHT Ζ IN EACH ROOM THE RIGHT DELAY SO IT WILL INTERACT WITH THE LEFT Ζ IN A WAY THAT THE Κ DOLL WON'T BE HARMED.  
  
TWO DIFFERENT TIMINGS ARE POSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE THIS, WHICH DIFFER BY 2:  
Α THE Ζ CAN EITHER SLIDE ABOVE THE OTHER ONE, OR  
Α THERE CAN BE A MORE COMPLICATED INTERACTION WHERE THE ΖΖ ACTUALLY SWITCH ROLES.  
  
AS ALL ΖΖ HAVE CIRCLE LENGTH 12, EVERY DELAY CAN BE SEEN MODULO 12 (SO 0=12, 1=13 AND SO ON).  
  
ROOM 1  
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POSSIBLE DELAYS: 0 OR -2=10.  
BOTH CAN ACTUALLY BE ACHIEVED:  
Α DELAY O BY SIMPLY DOING NOTHING WITH THE ΑΑΑΑΑΑΑΑ IN THE MIDDLE.  
Α DELAY 10 BY PRE-COLLECTING THEM ALL.  
  
ROOM 2  
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POSSIBLE DELAYS: 4 OR 2  
DELAY 2 IS IMPOSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE, BUT DELAY 4 CAN BE ACHIEVED BY REMOVING THE TOP ΑΑ FROM THE BOWL IN THE MIDDLE.  
  
ROOM 3  
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POSSIBLE DELAYS: 7 OR 5  
DELAY 5 IS "ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE" (SEE BELOW!), BUT 7 CAN BE ACHIEVED BY REMOVING 3Α FROM THE BOWL.  
  
ROOM ?  
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POSSIBLE DELAYS: 3 OR 1  
BOTH DELAYS ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE, SO THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A TROLL ROOM! :D  
  
ROOM !  
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POSSIBLE DELAYS: 5 OR 3  
DELAY 3 CANNOT BE ACHIEVED, AND NORMALLY, DELAY IS ALSO IMPOSSIBLE. BUT! WITH THE TRICK SHOWN IN MY RUN, REMOVING ΑΑΑ FROM THE BOWL WHILE THE Ζ IS ALREADY INSIDE, IT IS POSSIBLE! SO THIS IS THE INTENDED REAL BONUS ROOM!  
HOWEVER, Κ ISN'T IN TIME TO CRUSH THE Ζ IMMEDIATELY, SO THE Ζ MUST BE GIVEN ANOTHER DELAY TO MAKE A SECOND ROUND. THIS TIME, THE DELAY MUST BE 1 (IMPOSSIBLE) OR -1=11 (ACHIEVED BY LEAVING ONLY ONE Α IN THE BOWL).  
  
THIS IS ABOUT MY INTENDED SOLUTION, ANYWAY. NOW I'M CURIOUS WHAT arno DOES IN HIS 5285 RUN :D

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DUSTIN                            2026-01-03 00:19
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HAHAHA, I SERIOUSLY JUST REALIZED WHILE WATCHING arno'S RUN THAT I FORGOT TO PLACE THE LIGHT Π IN THE  ROOM :D AND I WAS WONDERING ALL THE TIME HOW A BLAST THROUGH THE ΙΙΙ COULD BE USEFUL, BECAUSE THE Π WAS THERE IN MY HEAD ALL THE TIME :D

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ARNO                              2026-01-03 10:46
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HAHA, OH WOW, I WAS ACTUALLY VERY SURE THAT THAT MISSING LIGHT BOULDER WAS INTENDED! :-D  
  
ALSO, IN MY RUN WITH 1 BONUS\, A FEW THINGS WHERE QUITE REMARKABLE:  
  
- IN THE "?" ROOM, THE FFLY IS BRIDGED FOR THE SECOND TIME ALMOST AUTOMATICALLY, AFTER JUST REMOVING ALL REMAINING DIAMONDS.   
  
- WHEN TRANSPORTING THE FFLY FROM THE "?" ROOM TO THE "!" ROOM, THE SHORTEST PATH JUST WORKED TO BRIDGE IT IN THE "!" ROOM. NO NEED TO TWEAK ITS PATH TO FINETUNE THE TIMING.  
  
- BY SACRIFICING 2 DIAMONDS, I COULD GET 3 MORE, SO 1 BONUS\ EFFECTIVELY.  
  
ALL THESE THINGS TURN OUT SO NICELY THAT I JUST THOUGHT THEY WERE BY DESIGN, AND I WAS QUITE CONVINCED THAT THIS WAS THE INTENDED BONUS\ METHOD! :-D

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DUSTIN                            2026-01-03 15:46
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HAHA, THIS IS REALLY A FUNNY CHAIN OF COINCIDENCES! :D  
  
ALSO, YOUR SOLUTION PROVES THAT THE ? ROOM (WITH THE Π) IS ACTUALLY SOLVABLE! SO ALL 55Α WOULD BE POSSIBLE!  
  
THAT'S ENOUGH NEW RESULTS FOR A RE-UPLOAD, I GUESS :D