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cso 115 the impossible blast
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dustin
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DARKSTOORM                        2021-01-05 13:02
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dustin, DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE WORTH ADDING A DEEP EXPLANATION ON HOW TO APPROACH EACH CSO CAVE AFTER THE SOLUTIONS ARE REVEALED? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THE CURRENT SOLUTIONS ACTUALLY WORK AND WHY :P  
  
HERE, FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW THERE ARE TWO SOLUTIONS, BUT DUE TO THE SCANNING ORDER, ONE OF THEM IS IMPOSSIBLE :D

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DUSTIN                            2021-01-05 14:18
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darkstoorm, WELL ON arno'S SITE IN THE FORUM, THERE'S A THREAD WHERE I EXPLAIN IN DETAIL HOW THE CSO CAVES WORK. SO FAR CSO 1-30 ARE EXPLAINED THERE, AND THE THREAD WILL CONTINUE. YOU FIND IT IN "TOOLS, FANSTUFF" - "CAVESCANNING ORDER EFFECTS OR SAFELY TOUCH FIREFLIES" :)  
  
I THINK IF YOU CAREFULLY READ YOUR WAY THROUGH THE THREAD, YOU CAN TRY AND EXPLAIN NEW CSO CAVES FOR YOURSELF :)

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DARKSTOORM                        2021-01-05 14:21
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OH RIGHT, NOW I REMEMBER! :D GONNA TAKE A LOOK LATER

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DUSTIN                            2021-01-05 19:16
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THX 4 YOUR INTEREST! :)

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DUSTIN                            2021-01-07 01:14
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OH! FOR SOME REASON, I WAS CERTAIN THE FFLY HAD TO TAKE A CORNER BEFORE GETTING CRUSHED. BUT NOW, SEEING YOUR DEMOS... IT'S SIMPLER :D  
  
darkstoorm, HERE'S THE EXPLANATION WHY THE SOLUTION WITHOUT THE | PUSH DOES NOT WORK. YOU WOULD END UP IN THE FOLLOWING SCENARIO (ONE FRAME BEFORE EXPLOSION):  
  
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^F  
  
NOW ^ WOULD LIKE TO MOVE BEFORE THE EXPLOSION HAPPENS. BUT UNFORTUNATELY FOR HIM, THE | IS SCANNED FIRST AND EXPLODES THE F BEFORE ^ CAN MOVE AWAY, SO HE CANNOT ESCAPE THE EXPLOSION RANGE ANYMORE.  
  
IN THE SOLUTION, BOTH THE | AND THE F ARE DELAYED BY ONE FRAME. THAT'S EXACTLY ENOUGH FOR ^ TO ESCAPE THE HOTSPOT!  
  
NOTE THAT IF INSTEAD OF A |, IT WAS AN AMOEBA WHICH KILLED THE F...  
.A  
^F  
...THEN ^ WOULD INDEED SURVIVE. THIS IS BECAUSE AN AMOEBA DOES NOT ACTIVELY KILL FLIES, BUT THE EXPLOSION HAPPENS WHEN THE FLY IS SCANNED. AS ^ IS SCANNED BEFORE F, HE WOULD ESCAPE THIS SCENARIO SAFELY!

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NESDORI                           2021-01-07 02:10
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dustin, I ALSO TOOK A SMALL CORNER IN MY SOLUTION AND JUST RIGHT AFTER MY RUN WONDERED THAT WHY I THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD CHANGE ANYTHING. BUT THEN AGAIN IT'S SO SMALL EXTRA THAT REMOVING IT WON'T HELP TO GET BETTER SCORE SO I LEFT THAT RUN :)

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DUSTIN                            2021-01-07 18:43
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FUNNY HOW WE BOTH CAME TO THINK THE CORNER IS NECESSARY! I COULD HAVE CUT THE LAST ROW! :D

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NESDORI                           2021-01-07 20:54
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dustin, I DIDN'T REALLY THOUGHT THAT A CORNER IS NECESSARY BUT I VISUALIZED THAT THE FLY IS APPROACHING FROM THE RIGHT HORIZONTALLY (LIKE IT USUALLY IS IN OTHER CAVES) AND SO I DID AN EXTRA CURVE TO MATCH THE FLY ROUTE WITH MY VISUALIZATION :)