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classic remakes 35
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dustin
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DUSTIN                            2022-06-26 20:50
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DIFFICULTY: 3/10

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DARKSTOORM                        2022-06-27 00:37
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I CAN'T FIGURE OUT MORE THAN 84 MAYBE 85 :D ONE \ GOT STUCK AND MISSED A COUPLE   BOULDERS :(

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DUSTIN                            2022-06-27 09:56
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I HAVE AN IDEA WHICH \\\ YOU MIGHT HAVE MISSED. I FIGURED OUT A LITTLE TRICK FOR FOUR \\\\ :D

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DUSTIN                            2022-06-27 10:21
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HA! GOT ONE MORE! NOW HERE'S THE "OFFICIAL"...  
  
BONUS CHALLENGE: GET 90\!  
DIFFICULTY: 7/10  
  
IT REQUIRES QUITE SOME PLANNING BUT NO CRAZY TRICKS LIKE CSO. AND I HAVEN'T USED ANY FIREFLIES. I DON'T KNOW IF AND HOW THEY COULD HELP TO GET MORE \\\...

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DARKSTOORM                        2022-06-27 14:07
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UNHIDING MY DEMO SINCE AT THIS POINT 10 \\\ DIFFERENCE IS BIG :D  
THERE WERE SOME MISTAKES

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DUSTIN                            2022-06-27 16:26
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darkstoorm, A FEW HINTS:  
  
\ THE TOP-LEFT CORNER I DID THE SAME WAY AS YOU.  
   
\ TOP-MIDDLE ROOMS: IT'S NOT NECESSARY TO THROW ALL THE ||| THROUGH THE GAP WHERE ^ ENTERS THE ROOMS. YOU CAN ALSO THROW SOME \\\ THROUGH THE TOP MAGIC WALL AND PREVENT THE \\\ FROM RE-CONVERTING BY THE BOTTOM MAGIC WALL.  
  
\ TOP-RIGHT ROOM AND THE MAGIC WALL STAIRS BELOW: I HAD TO SACRIFICE SOME ||| AS WELL, BUT ALL IN ALL IT'S POSSIBLE TO GET MORE \\\ THERE. I USED ONE MAGIC WALL FROM THE STAIRS TO CONVERT SOME ||| AND THEN BLOCKED IT WITH A |. AFTER THAT, I COULD SAFELY CONVERT THE ||| FROM THE TOP-RIGHT ROOM WITHOUT RECONVERTING.  
  
\ I DIDN'T USE ANY FIREFLIES! THE ||| WHICH GOT DESTROYED BY YOUR EXPLOSIONS CAN BE CONVERTED INTO \\\!

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DARKSTOORM                        2022-06-27 19:21
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OKAY, A BIT BETTER NOW WITH SIMILAR SOLUTION, I COULD STILL GET +1\ WITH A LUCKY PUSH ON THE RIGHT DIAGONAL WALL. I TRIED SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH THE EXPLOSION IN THE TOP-MIDDLE, BUT THAT DIDN'T GO THAT WELL :D OR MAYBE INSTEAD I COULD TRY C-PUSH  
  
I'M FINE WITH 89\\\ :D

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NESDORI                           2022-06-27 20:18
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darkstoorm, I HAD A "NOO!" MOMENT IN EACH TOP ROOM WHEN I WATCHED YOUR SOLUTION. I THINK IT CAN BE IMPROVED BY +4\ (OR +5\ WITH 1/4 LUCK) :)

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DUSTIN                            2022-06-27 20:35
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I, ON THE OTHER HAND, ALSO HAD A FEW "AAAAH!" MOMENTS WHERE I CAN GET A FEW MORE \\\ WITH HELP OF YOUR SOLUTION :D

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DARKSTOORM                        2022-06-27 20:43
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OH MY GOD, SO MANY DIAMONDS GOT WASTED! :D :D :D

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DARKSTOORM                        2022-06-27 21:03
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I BORROWED dustin'S SOLUTION! :D  
  
I WAS ACTUALLY EXCITED TO TRY THE TWO LUCKY PUSHES, BUT... I TOTALLY FORGOT THE WALL WAS BLOCKED :D NOW THAT'S AN OOPSIE

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NESDORI                           2022-06-27 21:24
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IF I READ CORRECTLY, IT'S STILL POSSIBLE TO GET +1\ FROM THE UPPER LEFT CORNER ROOM BY ENTERING THE ROOM BY EXPLODING THE LEFTMOST WALL.  ONE TO-BE-\ LOST BUT TWO GAINED FROM THE LEFTMOST COLUMN. THE \ ALREADY IN THE ROOM HAS AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN CREATING STAIRS :)

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DUSTIN                            2022-06-27 21:30
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I ALSO MADE A "D+D BEST OF" RUN :D  
  
FIGURING OUT THE MAX HERE COULD ACTUALLY BE THE SUBJECT OF A DOCTORAL DISSERTATION :D I SEE SEVERAL POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS WHICH WOULD STAY CLOSE TO OUR RUNS:  
  
\ IN THE RIGHTMOST SECTION, WE USED DIFFERENT METHODS BUT WE ALWAYS HAD TO SACRIFICE ONE |, EITHER FOR BLOCKING A MWALL OR FOR DESTROYING A FFLY. IS IT REALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO GET THE EXTRA \?   
  
\ ALSO, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE TO BLOCK THAT MWALL FROM THE STAIRS, WE COULD PUSH TWO MORE || THROUGH IT.  
  
\ TO GET ACCESS TO THE TOP-LEFT SECTION, WE HAD TO GET RID OF THREE \\\ AT THE VERY LEFT, BUT THESE ARE POTENTIAL \\\...  
  
FURTHERMORE, THERE ARE SO MANY FFLIES AND OUR FINAL SOLUTIONS DIDN'T USE ANY OF THEM. IS THERE REALLY NO POSSIBILITY TO GET MORE \\\ WITH THEIR HELP? TRUE, CRUSHING A FFLY ALWAYS COSTS A |, BUT STILL. FOR EXAMPLE, A PIECE OF THE STAIRS COULD BE BLASTED IN "CLASSIC REMAKES 12" STYLE.

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DUSTIN                            2022-06-27 21:34
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nesdori, THE LAST TWO POSTS (MINE AND YOURS) WOULD FIT BETTER IN REVERSE ORDER :D

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DUSTIN                            2022-06-27 21:41
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AH, AND HOW ABOT BLASTING THE RIGHTMOST VERTICAL WALL FROM THE LEFT SIDE? THIS WOULD NOT EVEN SACRIFICE A POTENTIAL \, AND IT WOULD FREE THE |||| STACK TO THE WALL'S RIGHT. THEN IT MIGHT NO LONGER BE NECESSARY TO BLOCK THE STAIRS AND WE COULD PUSH THE TWO || ON THE BOTTOM HORIZONTAL MWALL THROUGH THE STAIRS!

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DARKSTOORM                        2022-06-27 22:42
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OH YEAH, ABOUT THE 'CLASSIC REMAKES 12', I HAVE A THEORY  
  
CHECK THE SECTION NEXT TO THE DIAGONAL MWALL AT THE BOTTOM  
  
|DDDD  
|D||M  
|D|M  
DDM  
  
YOU CAN BLAST THE |:S WITH APPROACHING FIREFLY, BUT YOU LOSE ONE |.  
THIS ALSO REMOVES SECOND MWALL, CREATING A HOLE YOU HAVE TO FILL WITH SURROUNDING |:S, THEN MAYBE YOU COULD CONVERT THOSE |:S ON THE BOTTOM MWALL  
  
MIGHT BE WORTH A TRY, BUT NOT SURE IT WOULD BE PROFITABLE :D  
  
REQUIRED SETUP:  
  
MMM||  
.D.^D  
...|M  
..|M  
..M  
  
ROLLING BOULDER CRUSHES FIREFLY, WHICH DESTROYS SECOND MWALL

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DARKSTOORM                        2022-06-27 22:43
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FORGOT TO MENTION:  
  
OR DESTROY THIRD MWALL FROM THE BOTTOM SIMILAR TO "CLASSIC REMAKES 12" AND PUSH THE BOULDER OUT OF THE WAY :D

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DUSTIN                            2022-06-28 15:28
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THAT'S ALSO A POSSIBILITY! BUT HOW TO USE THE REMAINING MAGIC WALL AT THE BOTTOM?

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DARKSTOORM                        2022-06-28 16:53
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dustin, I HAVEN'T TESTED IT YET BUT IT COULD BE USED TO CONVERT THE FREE ||| ON THE BOTTOM MWALL, BUT I'D NEED TO DO SOME EXPERIMENTS LATER :D

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DUSTIN                            2022-06-28 19:48
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AH YES OF COURSE! :D

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DARKSTOORM                        2022-06-28 21:02
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NAH, I CAN'T MAKE IT WORK BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAVE THE TOP-RIGHT BOULDERS :D

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DUSTIN                            2022-06-29 22:02
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YEAH, LOOKS QUITE TRICKY!

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NESDORI                           2022-06-30 20:39
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I MADE A 94\ DEMO UTILIZING TOP LEFT CORNER WALL BLAST AND "STORE A BLOCKING |" IDEA TO GET ANOTHER EXTRA \ FROM THE DIAGONAL WALL. EXTRA \ CAN BE ACHIEVED FROM DIAGONAL WALL ALSO BY EXPLODING A PIECE OF WALL FROM BENEATH BY LUCKY PUSHING A | ON TOP OF ANOTHER |. THIS CAN BE TRIED MANY TIMES AS LONG AS THERE'S TIME LEFT. I STILL LIKE THIS SOLUTION MORE BECAUSE ^ HAS TO RUN BACK AND FORTH AND THE PUZZLE HAS DIFFERENT STATES. IT'S POSSIBLE TO GET 2 MORE \ WITH 1/4 LUCK EACH. IT'S A BIT MORE COMPLICATED THAN THIS SOLUTION AND TAKES MORE TIME. I THINK THAT 96 IS THE MAX. THIS TIME I'M NOT STUBBORN ENOUGH TO TRY TO GET THEM, REALLY! :)

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DARKSTOORM                        2022-06-30 21:29
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I SEE THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR 95\, YOU HAVE TWO FREE | ON THE BOTTOM WALL. IF YOU MANAGE TO DIRECT A FIREFLY SOMEHOW SO IT STICKS TO THAT WALL, YOU COULD BLAST THE DIAGONALLY SITTING BOULDERS WHICH ALSO BLASTS A GAP BETWEEN MAGIC WALLS FOR TOP-RIGHT STACK, THEN YOU COULD CONVERT THE LAST REMAINING |  
  
THAT MOMENT IS AT 1:50 WHERE YOU CAN BLOCK FFLY'S PATH SO IT GOES AROUND THE MAGIC WALL, THEN PUSH THE | TO THE RIGHT AND BLAST THE FIREFLY :D (AT LEAST I THINK THIS WOULD WORK)

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DARKSTOORM                        2022-06-30 21:30
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OH, YOU ALREADY EXPLAINED IT :D I JUST WENT RIGHT INTO THE DEMO :D :D

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NESDORI                           2022-06-30 22:23
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darkstoorm, YES THERE ARE MAY WAYS TO UTILIZE LUCK TO GET ONE OR TWO MORE BUT IS THERE A NON-LUCKY WAY TO GET 95\? NOT SURE YET..

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DUSTIN                            2022-07-10 12:45
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nesdori, OK NOW AFTER MORE THAN ONE WEEK I START TO BELIEVE IN YOUR NON-STUBBORNNESS FOR NOW... :D

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DUSTIN                            2022-07-10 12:45
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VERY COOL 94\ RUN BTW!