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balderdash 82 (desert 2)
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by
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dustin
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DUSTIN                            2022-10-25 10:20
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THIS ONE IS BASED ON THE COLORS "DESERT SAND" FOR DIRT AND "DESERT" FOR TWALL, PLUS VERY LIGHT-GRAY ROCKS AND A SUNSET BACKGROUND. DOES THIS LOOK DESERT-ISH TO YOU?  FOR ME IT KIND OF DOES, THOUGH I FEEL IT COULD STILL BE SLIGHTLY IMPROVED :D  
  
BTW THE CAVE IS ALSO A BIT PUZZLING! ;)

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ARNO                              2022-10-25 19:01
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NICE LITTLE PUZZLE! ;-D  
  
CONCERNING THE COLOURS, I THINK IT ALREADY LOOKS QUITE LIKE A DESERT. HOWEVER, I WOULD SUGGEST TO MAKE THE DIRT AND WALL COLOURS A LITTLE BIT MORE YELLOW.  
THIS WOULD MAKE THE DIRT LOOK MORE LIKE DUST/SAND (SO LESS PINK).  
THE WALL COLOUR ACTUALLY LOOKS A BIT BLUE TO ME (WHICH IS AN OPTICAL ILLUTION BECUAUSE IT IS PURELY GREY IN REALITY...), THIS CAN BE SOLVED BY SHIFTING THE COLOUR A BIT TO THE YELLOW SIDE. :-)

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SHREDDER                          2022-10-25 21:04
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WHAT A PUZZLE! :O :D

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NESDORI                           2022-10-25 21:13
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I BET THAT dustin WAS WAITING FOR darkstoorm'S SCORE SO THAT HE CAN IMPROVE IT BY 1 CONSTANTLY. NOW shredder ALREADY REVEALED IT :D

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DUSTIN                            2022-10-25 22:50
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arno, THANKS FOR THE SUGGESTIONS ABOUT THE COLORS! "DESERT 3" WILL COME :D  
  
shredder, GLAD YOU LIKE IT :D  
  
nesdori, YOUR COMMENT IS VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE NOW I THINK YOU FOUND A SOLUTION WHICH I HAVEN'T FOUND! :D ALSO arno SEEMS TO HAVE THIS SOLUTION. THERE SEEMS TO BE QUITE SOME POTENTIAL TO MAKE A HARDER VERSION OF THIS PUZZLE... LET'S SEE ;)

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NESDORI                           2022-10-26 00:52
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dustin, BASED ON YOUR COMMENTS YOUR INTENDED SOLUTION IS THE REQUIRED 7\ AND NO MORE. BUT THAT'S SO CONFUSING! :D

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DUSTIN                            2022-10-26 10:15
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nesdori, ACTUALLY THE INTENDED SOLUTION WORKS WITH 9|. SO IF darkstoorm WOULD SOLVE THE CAVE AS INTENDED, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TROLL HIM BY COLLECTING AN EXTRA \ AND IMPROVING HIS SCORE BY 1. SO WHEN I READ YOUR FIRST COMMENT, I THOUGHT THAT YOU THOUGHT THAT I HAD A 7 OR 8\ SOLUTION FOR darkstoorm IN MIND, WHICH I WOULD THEN IMPROVE BY COLLECTING MORE \\\. BUT ACTUALLY, I MADE THE 7\ REQUIREMENT ONLY TO DISTRACT THE PLAYER FROM FINDING THE ACTUAL SOLUTION ;D  
  
I'M VERY CURIOUS FOR arno'S SOLUTION. HE SEEMS TO HAVE 8\ WITH 101 SECONDS LEFT. I WONDER HOW HE DID IT! (I DON'T THINK HE JUST LEFT AN EASY \ BEHIND...) :D

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NESDORI                           2022-10-26 10:33
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dustin, WELL ISN'T IT QUITE OBVIOUS; arno USED THE VISIBLE EXIT (WHICH I THOUGHT IS THE INTENDED SOLUTION AND THE HIDDEN EXIT IS JUST A TROLLING BONUS) AND THE REST OF US USED THE HIDDEN EXIT :)

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NESDORI                           2022-10-26 12:48
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I MADE ANOTHER RUN (814) WHICH USES THE VISIBLE EXIT AND WHICH I THINK IS CLOSE TO arno'S SOLUTION (IF arno INDEED DID THE VISIBLE EXIT AND HE IS NOT JUST TROLLING WITH 9\ AND JUST LET THE TIMER RUN, THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME arno IS TROLLING :D ) THIS SOLUTION IS EVEN MORE PUZZLING THAN 9\ AND THE HIDDEN EXIT KIND OF SPOILS THE FUN. SO I HIGHLY RECOMMEND TO DO ANOTHER REMIX WHERE THE HIDDEN EXIT IS REMOVED. IN THAT CASE I'LL NOT REVEAL THE OTHER SOLUTION YET :)

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NESDORI                           2022-10-26 12:49
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*814=914

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DARKSTOORM                        2022-10-26 12:49
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dustin, I HAVEN'T TRIED THIS YET, QUITE BUSY WITH STUFF :D  
FIRST THING I TRIED JUST FOR A TEST WAS PUSHING BOULDER WITH A DIAMOND TO THE LEFT IN A WAY THAT ROLLING DIAMOND CRUSHES THE FLY, BUT THAT CONSUMES THE BOULDER. I WILL TRY SOME MORE IN THE EVENING :D

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ARNO                              2022-10-26 13:09
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darkstoorm, THAT IS INDEED THE APPROACH I DID IN MY RUN, AND THERE IS A WAY TO KILL THE FFLY WITH THE \ AND SAVE THE LIGHT|. THAT IS THE TRICKY PART, AND I HAVE THE FEELING THAT THIS IS ALSO THE INTENDED SOLUTION.  
  
I JUST GOT CONFUSED THAT ONLY 7\ ARE REQUIRED INSTEAD OF 8\. I INDEED DID THE RUN WITH 8\ AND THE OPEN EXIT, AND FORGOT TO CHECK FOR OTHER EXITS AFTERWARDS. THERE IS A VARIANT OF MY SOLUTION WHERE 1\ GETS WASTED, BUT THAT'S SO OBVIOUS THAT IT CAN HARDLY BE MISSED...  
  
SO NOW I'M CURIOUS IF THE 7\ REQUIREMENT IS PART OF THE TROLL, OR IS THERE AN (INTENDED) SOLUTION WHERE ONLY 7\ ARE ACTUALLY POSSIBLE?

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NESDORI                           2022-10-26 13:31
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arno, IF I COMPREHENDED dustin CORRECTLY: GOING INTO THE HIDDEN EXIT IS THE INTENDED SOLUTION AND IT WAS ACTUALLY ADDED BECAUSE HE THOUGHT THAT THIS CAVE IS UNSOLVABLE WITHOUT IT. SO THE INTENDED PATH WAS TO GIVE UP TRYING TO GET INTO THE VISIBLE EXIT AND LOOK FOR OTHER EXITS. SO OUR VISIBLE EXIT SOLUTIONS ARE NEW NOVELTIES :)

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DARKSTOORM                        2022-10-26 18:54
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OH, I SEE! I KNEW SOMETHING IS OFF WHEN THERE ARE BONUS POINTS :D  
ALTHOUGH, YOU CAN NEVER BE SURE WHEN PLAYING dustin'S CAVES! :D

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DUSTIN                            2022-10-27 21:41
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nesdori, YOU GOT ME RIGHT INDEED :D I DID (AND STILL DO) NOT SEE A WAY TO FINISH THE CAVE VIA THE VISIBLE EXIT :D IT LOOKS LIKE THE IDEA IS INDEED WORTH A REMAKE, BUT FIRST I'LL TRY TO FIND OUT HOW THIS WORKS!  
  
darkstoorm, HEHE ;D

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NESDORI                           2022-10-27 21:52
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dustin, THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF MINIMALISTIC CHALLENGING PUZZLE. THERE REALLY AREN'T THAT MANY SENSIBLE WAYS TO TRY IT BUT STILL IT'S HARD TO FIND "THE WAY" :)

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DUSTIN                            2022-10-27 22:08
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HA! GOT IT :D

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DUSTIN                            2022-10-28 23:50
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MY RUNS FREE. I DECIDED THAT I FIRST WANT TO COMPARE OUR SOLUTIONS (PERHAPS THERE ARE OTHER WAYS THAN MINE TO USE THE VISIBLE EXIT?) AND THEN SEE IF I CAN MAKE CSO CAVES WITH THE IDEA(S) :)