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ARNO 1412 ||| & \\\ VOL.8
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Arno
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DUSTIN                            2020-07-05 23:41
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I NEED AT LEAST ONE MORE "0" BEHIND THE TIMER! ;D

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DUSTIN                            2020-07-06 00:14
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...OR MORE PRACTICE ;D GREAT PUZZLE!

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NESDORI                           2020-07-06 00:31
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NICE RELAXING PUZZLE! I HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS BUT I WON'T SPOIL YET.. :)

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ARNO                              2020-07-06 10:08
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THX FOR PLAYING GUYS! :-D  
  
nesdori I'M CURIOUS! I'D EXPECT EACH PUZZLE HAS JUST ONE POSSIBLE (WITHOUT LUCK) DROP ORDER; I'VE EXCLUDED ALL OTHER WAYS IN MY TESTS... BUT LET'S WAIT FOR TOMORROW! ;-)

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DUSTIN                            2020-07-06 10:29
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arno, DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT THE FACT THAT THERE'S ONLY ONE POSSIBLE WAY TO SOLVE A CAVE CAN STOP nesdori FROM SOLVING IT DIFFERENTLY? :P

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NESDORI                           2020-07-06 10:39
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arno: WELL THERE ARE SOME INTERESTING THINGS. FOR EXAMPLE THERE IS A ROOM WHERE I DIDN'T NEED A LIGHT BOULDER AT ALL (IT COULD HAVE BEEN REGULAR AS WELL) AND I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT IS THE INTENDED SOLUTION.. :)

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ARNO                              2020-07-06 11:08
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OH DAMN! NOW I SEE THERE IS ONE ROOM WITH 2 SOLUTIONS, I.E. TWO DIFFERENT DROP ORDERS ARE POSSIBLE... :-O  
AND THERE IS INDEED ONE ROOM WHERE LIGHT BOULDER COULD BE EXCHANGED BY NORMAL BOULDER, BUT THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE REQUIRED DROP ORDER. :-)

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NESDORI                           2020-07-06 12:16
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arno, THERE'S ALSO A DROP WHICH TECHNICALLY CAN BE DONE EITHER WAY SO THAT THE STREAM OF OBJECTS WHICH FALLS THROUGH THE SLIME BENEATH THEM IS DIFFERENT BUT THE RESULTING LOWER ROOM ARRENGEMENT IS STILL THE SAME IN BOTH CASES! SOME MAGIC.. :)

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DUSTIN                            2020-07-06 17:52
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THERE ARE EVEN TWO LIGHT BOULDERS WHICH COULD BE NORMAL BOULDERS AS WELL!

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ARNO                              2020-07-07 21:07
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MY SOLUTION IS FREE NOW! :-)  
  
AS FAR AS I CAN SEE:  
  
ROOM 1: LIGHT BOULDER COULD BE REPLACED BY NORMAL BOULDER. THIS IS INTENDED;  BOTH BOULDERS ARE IN DIFFERENT LAYERS SO FOR THE DROP ORDER IT DOESN'T MATTER. :-)  
  
ROOM 5: THE DIAMOND AND LIGHT BOULDER COULD BE DROPPED IN EITHER ORDER. THIS IS SOMETHING I OVERLOOKED WHILE TESTING... :-/ ;-)  
  
dustin/nesdori: HAVE YOU FOUND MORE ROOMS WITH ALTERNATIVE WAYS?

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DUSTIN                            2020-07-07 21:49
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YIP, AS "PROMISED", THERE'S ANOTHER ROOM WHERE THE LIGHT BOULDER IS UNNECESSARY, AND THAT'S ROOM 3! ;D

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ARNO                              2020-07-07 22:46
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AH YES, IN ROOM 3 AND 5 I MISSED SOME ALTERNATIVE/SIMPLER WAYS, AND IN ROOM 7 ONLY THE BOTTOM PART... ;-)

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NESDORI                           2020-07-09 10:00
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arno, NOT MUCH TO ADD TO YOUR AND dustin'S LIST. THE UPPER ROOM #9 DROPS CAN BE DONE IN TWO WAYS. EITHER THE WAY WHICH WE ALL CHOOSED BY RUNNING STRAIGHT UP SO THAT THE DIAMOND WILL BLOCK THE LEFT SIDE ON THE BOTTOM ROOW AND SO THE ORDER OF THE LAST TWO BOULDERS IS REVERSED. ANOTHER WAY TO DO IT IS TO DO THE FIRST DROP NORMALLY AND THEN SNAP THE UPPER OBJECTS. I WAS ACTUALLY SURPRISED TO SEE THAT ALSO arno CHOSE THE "STRAIGHT UP"-METHOD. A SNAP WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE LOGICAL BECAUSE THE INDIVIDUAL DROPS DON'T AFFECT EACH OTHER ON THE BOTTOM ROOM :)

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ARNO                              2020-07-09 10:49
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nesdori, HOW EXACTLY DO YOU SNAP THE 2 BOULDERS IN ROOM 9? IF I TRY TO SNAP THE DIRT BETWEEN THE NORMAL AND HEAVY BOULDER, AND GO DOWN IMMEDIATELY, BOTH BOULDERS FALL WITH 2 PIECES OF SPACE IN BETWEEN. SO IN THE BOTTOM ROOM BOTH BOULDERS FALL TO THE LEFT WHEN HITTING THE DIAMOND, BUT WE NEED THE HEAVY BOULDER FALL TO THE RIGHT... :-)

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NESDORI                           2020-07-09 11:25
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arno, UHH, YOU ARE RIGHT! I MISREAD IT. I SHOULD HAVE ACTUALLY TRIED IT AND NOT TRUST MY FEEBLE BRAIN :)

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ARNO                              2020-07-09 12:40
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AH, OK, THX! :-)