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AM23 214 Charoite
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altermaven
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ALTERMAVEN                        2023-09-27 02:05
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CHAROITE IS A SILICATE THAT WAS DISCOVERED IN 1978. WHEN IT WAS DISCOVERED, IT WAS MISTAKEN FOR A CRYSTAL BELIEVED TO BE DYED. NATURAL CHAROITE HAS A PURPLE, LAVENDER OR LILAC HUE, WITH A PEARLY LUSTER. THE NAME OF THIS MINERAL IS DERIVED FROM THE RUSSIAN WORD "CHARY" WHICH MEANS "MAGIC" OR "CHARM".  
  
CHAROITE HAS A MOHS HARDNESS BETWEEN 5 AND 6.

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DARKWOOD                          2023-09-27 12:56
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altermaven: 'CHARY' IS UKRAINIAN WORD WITH THAT SAME MEANING, NOT RUSSIAN.

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ALTERMAVEN                        2023-09-27 22:41
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OH, IS IT UKRAINIAN? WELL, WIKIPEDIA IS WRONG ABOUT SOMETHING.. THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

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ROB GILBERT                       2023-09-28 06:11
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TO BE COMPLETELY FAIR, IT'S A WORD WHICH IS USED IN BOTH RUSSIAN AND UKRAINIAN, AND THE ROOT (CHAR-) MADE ITS WAY INTO OTHER SLAVIC LANGUAGES A LONG TIME AGO, WORDS WITH THIS ROOT AND WITH THIS MEANING EXIST IN BULGARIAN, SERBO-CROATIAN, AND OTHER LANGUAGES, AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE IT'S AN OLD SLAVIC WORD WHICH EXISTED FOR CENTURIES AND I GUESS IS DERIVED FROM A PROTO-INDOEUROPEAN ROOT. WHEN IT COMES TO RUSSIAN AND UKRAINIAN, I THINK THE SPELLING IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT (CHARY VS CHARI IF WE USE LATIN ALPHABET TRANSCRIPTION) BUT THE PRONUNCIATION IS VERY CLOSE OR THE SAME. THE MEANING IS EXACTLY THE SAME.

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ALTERMAVEN                        2023-09-28 11:56
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WELL, THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION. I'M ALWAYS WILLING TO LEARN NEW THINGS :)

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DARKWOOD                          2023-09-28 19:04
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altermaven: YES, WIKIPEDIA SAYS SO, AND RUSSIAN LANGUAGE USE THIS WORD BUT IT UKRAINIAN.  
EXAMPLE FOR VERIFICATION: IN THE UKRAINIAN LANGUAGE THERE IS A WORD 'CHARYVNYK' WHICH IS MEANING 'MAGICIAN/WIZARD', HOWEVER, RUSSIAN HAS THE WORD 'VOLSHEBNIK' FOR IT.  
rob gilbert: YOU ARE RIGHT, I ALSO THINK THAT THIS WORD COMES FROM A PROTO-INDO-EUROPEAN LANGUAGE / SANSKRIT.