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arno 1307 the 6 elements
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SHREDDER                          2020-01-19 22:47
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VERY INTERESTING! :) I'M TRYING WITH VORTEX+3 AND THEN 5+1, HMM... :)

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ARNO                              2020-01-20 08:08
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THAT'S NOT THE INTENDED WAY, BUT PERHAPS IT WORKS TOO... LET'S SEE :-D

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SHREDDER                          2020-01-20 20:35
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NOW WORKING FO FAR... :(   
...OR I'VE MISSED SOMETHING...  
  
I MUST CHANGE THE STRATEGY ;D

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ARNO                              2020-01-20 21:02
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I DO VORTEX+4, BUT NOT 4 IN A ROW, MORE 3+1... ;-)

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SHREDDER                          2020-01-21 14:29
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I GUESS SPINING FLIES ARE ONLY IN VORTEX?

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SHREDDER                          2020-01-21 14:43
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..AND I SHOULD CREATE TWO INDEPENDENT PATHS FOR REMAINING FFLIES AND LEAD THEM TO THE VORTEX :)

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ARNO                              2020-01-21 15:28
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IT'S QUITE TRICKY...  
  
I USE ONE PATH LEADING THE REMAINING 4 FLIES TO THE VORTEX.  
  
BUT ALONG THE WAY, 3 BFLIES COLLIDE WITH A SINGLE SPINNING FLY. THIS CAUSES 1 FLY MOVING ALONG ANOTHER FLY (DIAGONALLY, LIKE IN MY EARLIER "CONVEYOR BELT" CAVES).  
  
THIS GIVES THE FOLLOWING CONFIGURATION, WHICH CREATES THE 6-ELEMENTS FORMATION! :-)  
  
(X = DIRT; . = EMPTY SPACE; LETTERS = BFLIES IN CERTAIN DIRECTIONS)  
  
XXD.  
XX..  
XXD.  
.R.D  
L.D.

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SHREDDER                          2020-01-21 15:59
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THANKS FOR THE HINT arno! :) I WILL TRY IT LATER, PLEASE HOLD YOUR RUN FOR A WHILE :)

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NESDORI                           2020-01-22 14:16
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arno, SORRY FOR DELAYED REPLY. ABOUT 4T-&GT;6T TRANSFORMATION: WHEN I FOUND OUT 6T AND TRIED TO TRANSFORM IT FROM 4T, I JUST FIGURED OUT THE WAY IN MY HEAD AND NOT REALLY TRIED IT. IT INDEED REQUIRES QUICK ACTION AND YOU PROBABLY CONCRETIZED THE SAME IDEA. USING A FALLING OBJECT TO MAKE IT EASIER IS NICE IDEA. I DIDN'T CHECK IF TRANSFORMATION IS POSSIBLE TO DO ON MORE THAN ONE PHASE BUT YOU PROBABLY DID?-) I ASSUME THIS WAY IS IMPOSSIBLE IN THIS CAVE BECAUSE THE DIRT AREA IS TOO SMALL AND SO VORTEX-METHOD IS FORCED :)

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ARNO                              2020-01-22 15:27
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THX nesdori!  
  
YES, I HAVE STUDIED ALL 4 PHASES OF 6-EL TO FIND A WAY TO CREATE IT FROM 4-EL. I FOUND ONLY ONE WAY (PROBABLY THE SAME AS YOU FIGURED OUT BY MIND), BUT I COULD ONLY PUT IT INTO PRACTICE BY USING A FALLING OBJECT, TO PREVENT ROCKFORD TOUCHES A FLY. I'M WORKING ON A CAVE SHOWCASING THIS IDEA.  
  
INDEED IN THE CURRENT CAVE, THE VORTEX-METHOD IS INTENDED. :-)

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SHREDDER                          2020-01-22 17:39
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ALMOST ! :D

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ARNO                              2020-01-22 18:39
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FINGERS CROSSED..... :-)

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SHREDDER                          2020-01-22 19:09
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OK I SEE MY PROBLEM. WHEN I SET THE VORTEX AND SINGLE SPINING FLY AND THEN SET FREE REMAINING 3 FLIES I GOT THIS:  
  
XXD.  
XX..  
XXD.  
.R..  
L.D.  
...D  
  
SINGLE FLY TRAVEL DIAGONALY WITH FIRST OF THREE FLIES INSTEAD OF SECOND. THATS WHY MY FORMATION BREAKS.   
I MUST FIND ANOTHER WAY TO CONNECT THE 3+1 :)

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ARNO                              2020-01-22 19:27
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YES, THIS IS THE MOST TRICKY PART...  
  
JUST ANOTHER HINT:   
  
THE BFLY WHICH IS CARRIED (DIAGONALLY) BY ANOTHER ONE IS NOT(!) THE SPINNING FLY. ACTUALLY IT IS THE FIRST OF THE 3 REMAINING FLIES. THE SPINNING FLY IS THERE TO PUSH HIM TO THE RIGHT. :-)

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SHREDDER                          2020-01-23 00:33
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D.  
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D.  
.D  
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D.  
  
SPINING BFLY MOVES THE FIRST OF 3 TO THE RIGHT, BUT IN THE SAME TIME BLOCKS SECOND BFLY FOR 1 FRAME RESULTS WITH 1 EXCESS SPACE... :(

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SHREDDER                          2020-01-23 00:39
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OK, 1 PIECE OF DIRT REMOVED QUICKLY DELAYS THE BFLY WITH 1 FRAME AND REDUCES ONE EXCESS SPACE :) NOW I'M REALY CLOSE :D

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SHREDDER                          2020-01-23 03:35
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BOOM! ;) \\\

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ARNO                              2020-01-23 07:54
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YESS! BIG APPLAUSE FOR shredder, AS THIS CAVE IS DEFINITELY A NON-STANDARD LAUNCH-CAVE REQUIRING SOME DELICATE MOVES AND TRICKS! :-D  
  
I GUESS YOUR RUN IS ALMOST IDENTICAL TO MINE... IT'S FREE NOW.  
CONGRAT &AMP; THX FOR PLAYING! :-)

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SHREDDER                          2020-01-23 15:33
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THANKS FOR THIS FANTASTIC CAVE AND SOME BIG HINTS arno! :) GREAT FUN!  
  
BTW. LAUNCH METHOD IS REALY INSANE :) APPRECIATION FOR YOUR DESIGN.

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ARNO                              2020-01-23 20:14
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:-D