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arno 1114 even more insane
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ARNO                              2019-10-06 17:01
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TODAY IS A LUCKY DAY FOR MANY OF US, SO LET'S TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY! ;-D

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ARNO                              2019-10-06 18:59
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SOLVED WITHOUT nesdori'S METHOD; JUST PLAIN LUCK! ;-D

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SHREDDER                          2019-10-06 19:09
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I'VE USED nesdori'S METHOD AND IT'S 100% SUCCESSFULL :)  
OFCOURSE I CAN "FEEL" FASTER WAY WITH USING TIMER, BUT LESS EFFECTIVE ;)  
  
BTW. I'M DYING 9/10 TIMES BECAUSE OF CTRL KEY AND I THINK THE PROBLEM IS NOT IN MY KEYBOARD...

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ARNO                              2019-10-06 19:31
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WELL DONE shredder! I THINK IT'S QUITE A CHALLENGE TO USE THE METHOD nesdori DESCRIBED IN ORIGINAL CAVE...! :-D I'VE USED A SIMPLE TRICK BY THE WAY... ;-)

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NESDORI                           2019-10-06 19:36
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arno, HAVE YOU TRIED TO USE THE TIMER TICK METHOD? IT'S EASIER THAN IT SOUNDS. EVEN WHEN PROBABILITY OF SUCCESS IS JUST 25%.

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NESDORI                           2019-10-06 19:39
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ANOTHER TRICK THAT COMES TO MY MIND IS TO OPEN ANOTHER BD-CAVE WHERE THERE IS A ROTATING FLY AND SAME FPS AND USE THE OTHER WINDOW TO SYNC THE CAVE WHICH IS PLAYED.

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DUSTIN                            2019-10-06 19:44
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I COULD IMAGINE A METHOD THAT WORKS QIUCKER THAN nesdori'S ONE, BUT IT WOULD DEMAND CONSTANT, HARD CONCENTRATION  AND I COULDN'T YET MAKE IT PAST THE SECOND BUTTERFLY WITH THIS METHOD BECAUSE I LOST CONCENTRATION...

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ARNO                              2019-10-06 19:44
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CONGRAT nesdori! THAT'S THE METHOD I'VE USED. :-)  
  
I'VE TRIED YOUR METHOD, AND IT'S INDEED NOT SO HARD AS I THOUGHT; JUST A PRECISE MOVE IS NEEDED WHEN THE CLOCK TICKS, BUT THAT'S ALSO WHEN USING A SPINNIG FLY. :-)

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SHREDDER                          2019-10-06 19:46
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arno WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS A CHALLENGE? :) IMO THIS IS VERY SAFE. WHEN I'M USING OTHER METHODS, I SWEAR LIKE CRAZY BECAUSE OF FAILING ;D

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DUSTIN                            2019-10-06 19:50
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AWWWWW... THIS IS CHEATING! ;D  
nesdori - THE CHANCE OF SUCCESS WITH THE TIMER-METHOD SHOULD BE 50%, I THINK. IN 2 OUT OF 4 CASES, THE BFLY DOES NOT COME OUT IMMEDIATELY!  
MY CONCENTRATION-METHOD WAS TO COUNT THE BUTTERFLY-FLAPS...

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NESDORI                           2019-10-06 20:06
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dustin, DID YOU READ THE DESCRIPTION OF THE TIMER TICK METHOD FROM "COMPLETELY INSANE!" CAVE COMMENTS? IT'S ALWAYS SUCCESSFUL IF THE PLAYER IS SKILLFUL ENOUGH. THE DELAY IN FRAMES BETWEEN TRIES HAVE TO BE DIVISIBLE BY 4 TO ENSURE THAT THE FLY PHASE IS EXACTLY SAME FOR EACH TRY. SO IF FPS IS 7.5, THEN 8 SECONDS IS THE SHORTEST DELAY WHICH IS DIVISIBLE BY 4 (8 * 7.5 / 4 = 15).

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DUSTIN                            2019-10-06 20:35
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nesdori - YES, I DID, BUT YOU HAVE TO FIND A STARTING POINT FOR THE METHOD, SO YOU HAVE A 50% CHANCE TO DO IT FIRST TRY, DON'T YOU? THAT'S WHAT I MEANT...

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NESDORI                           2019-10-06 20:41
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OH YES! THAT'S TRUE. FOR STARTING POINT YOU NEED SOME TRIES.