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2020-07-11 13:09 nesdori  
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here we go again with another guess what -puzzle! the standard rng and seed, of course.  
  
i would be again surprised if this is figured out in 5 minutes. should take at least double that. maybe even double the doubled.  
  
if you are lost and need a hint i have good news for you: you already got one! :)

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2020-07-11 15:05 dustin  
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i have a feeling that for this one, i'd have to use the rng myself, but i haven't downloaded it yet ;d

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2020-07-11 15:17 nesdori  
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 dustin , i'll spare some of your time and give another hint. i actually thought about giving this hint right away anyway. the random values are also standard and the rng is used in standard way. this implies that the set of objects is the same than in the original cave. that's indeed true :)

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2020-07-11 16:13 dustin  
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ok, for the moment i'm out of ideas. i need a break ;d looks like a challenging one ;d

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2020-07-11 18:11 nesdori  
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it's funny how the cave name also affects difficulty. if the question mark is replaced with "is" the cave suddenly is a bit easier :)

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2020-07-11 20:02 dustin  
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alright, i'm ready for a new attempt. ok, that the number 4 plays a role was on my radar even after your first comment. doubling the boubled means "x4"! ;d but i couldn't get the number 4 into the game yet ;d

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2020-07-11 20:17 dustin  
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got it! ;d  
the cave is divided into 2x2 sectors, including the 0th and 39th column. the sectors are filled in the same order as the cave is normally filled. each sector individually is filled in the order  
12  
34  
  
actually, the first hint about doubling the double time was rather confusing than helpful ;d it made me think that i have to multiply something by 4. that's why i thought that perhaps you took every random number times 4 and then modulo 256 or something ;d ;d

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2020-07-11 20:48 nesdori  
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 dustin , correct solution again, well done! :) sorry for confusing hint; i know it can be also interpreted that something is quadrupled instead of that something is first doubled and then another dimension is also doubled. but if i meant to give a hint about quadrupling something i perhaps would have used something other wording than doubling a double :) and the hint was cryptic intentionally anyway because i didn't want to give too obvious hints right away :)

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2020-07-11 21:05 dustin  
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 nesdori , thx ;d yeah, in hindsight i think that your hint was quite nice ;d it could take someone into the right direction; in case of me, i just wanted to double numbers instead of geometric objects ;d i'll try to solve " nesdori 's guess what? 5" without any hints first; perhaps i need the unfiltered creativity! ;d

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2020-07-11 21:11 nesdori  
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 dustin , and in a sense quadrupling was also a hint. the size of the filling unit was quadrupled :)  
  
i have an idea for guess what? #5 but i'm not yet sure if it's practical. if it is and i publish it, i definitely recommend reading the hint! :)

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2020-07-11 21:22 dustin  
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this sounds very interesting! ;d

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2020-07-11 21:31 nesdori  
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I TRIED IT AND IT IS PRACTICAL. THE NEXT CAVE WILL BE FUNNY, SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT :)