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2019-11-04 21:37 Arno  
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so, here's the famous cave k. :-D  
  
please note that i've published this cave without testing a complete run. it's a very hard cave. level 5 requres 6\ while 8 are avaiable. there are indeed 2\ for which i'm not sure whether they are reachable.  
  
overall very beautifully designed cave; nice colours too! :-)  
  
- bottom-left section: funny ff effect; is certainly possible.  
- top-left section: i'm not yet sure about the central \...  
- bottom-right section: i found a way to pass the rocks, but of course i forgot what i did... ;-)  
- top-right section: explosion puzzle; reminds me of my cave 'falls of wealth 2'! :-)

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2019-11-04 21:50 dustin  
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cave name "kaizo kingdoms", inspired by the "kaizo mario world" series ;d  
every \ is possible! i just thought 6 out of 8\ was quite enough for this insane cave, that's the only "merciful thing" i did when designing this! ;d  
i'm far from getting 6\ in one run, but of course i did test each section for itself - at slower speed ;d - so i'm certain everything works!

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2019-11-04 22:16 dustin  
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 Arno  - i checked it out and couldn't find any layout errors! i'd love to see a demo if anyone solves this! ;d

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2019-11-04 22:28 nesdori  
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well-placed lower boulder in the bottom left chamber; otherwise i would have tried more than 8\ :)

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2019-11-04 22:33 dustin  
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that's what i learned from you,  nesdori  - innocent butterflies must always be hidden from the mighty bonus-\-scanner! ;d

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2019-11-04 22:35 nesdori  
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but they can't be freed! :)

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2019-11-04 22:48 dustin  
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you mean, even without the boulder?

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2019-11-04 23:06 nesdori  
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with or without, i meant disrupting the circular movement of bflies without rockford getting in serious trouble :)

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2019-11-04 23:11 dustin  
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yeah ;d

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2019-11-04 23:59 nesdori  
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ok, now i found a way to get more than 8\. no demo yet because it spoils some parts of the intended solution as well.

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2019-11-05 00:08 shredder  
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sounds great  nesdori ! :) can't wait to see the run! :) to bad i can't play :(

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2019-11-05 00:13 nesdori  
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 shredder , you are at work? too bad boulder dash isn't professional e-sports game.. :D

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2019-11-05 00:15 shredder  
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no :D at work i've terimated my finger :D now after work ;)

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2019-11-05 00:17 shredder  
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terminated *

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2019-11-05 00:20 nesdori  
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ouch! sounds bad, what happened?

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2019-11-05 00:32 shredder  
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pinched it. it's all (not a nail) purple and very thick, strange shape. hurts bad when i try to move it. we'll see tommorow :)

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2019-11-05 00:34 shredder  
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but i'm sure it's not to bad. got worst injuries ;D

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2019-11-05 00:34 dustin  
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 shredder  - uhhh hopefully nothing too serious!  
 nesdori  - why haven't i simply used fireflies instead of bf? ;d no, seriously - i'm looking foward to see the demo and am then willing to accept the 1-1! ;d

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2019-11-05 00:37 nesdori  
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ok, cu later. i hope it will get better soon

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2019-11-05 00:41 nesdori  
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 dustin , a demo surely will follow but this cave is so great that i don't want to spoil anything yet :)

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2019-11-05 00:48 shredder  
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cu later in playing guys! :) now i'm in observer mode, hungry for insane demos ;)

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2019-11-05 01:19 dustin  
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 shredder  - get well soon, hopefully! i could be very evil now and release "just one! 3" exactly when you can't play... luckily, i do have evil ideas but mostly don't turm them into reality ;d except for this cave, of course xd  
  
 nesdori  - i think you don't have any solution idea at all and only want to buy time! ;d no, honestly - thx for the praise and have fun with the poor butterflies... ;d

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2019-11-05 09:20 nesdori  
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 dustin : ah! i see you aren't convinced yet and have a distant hope that the score will be 2:0 instead of 1:1 :) let's see - maybe i indeed just had a dream about butterflies or my theory has a leak.. :)  
  
releasing "just one! 3" now would be the most evil act, i'm pretty sure  shredder  would learn to play left-handed (or right-handed if his main hand is left) if you do so :)  
  
 shredder : i hope your finger already is better today!

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2019-11-05 10:20 dustin  
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 nesdori  - tonight i deamed of butterflies converting into | when crushed, and of hiscorers sitting in front of their laptop with open mouth and not believing what they see... ;d  
  
 shredder  - how is your finger going today? Have you ever tried playing with your other hand or with your feet...? ;d

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2019-11-05 14:11 shredder  
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hi guys, it's even worst today but maybe i'll try to play some easy caves with the left hand ;D we'll see :)

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2019-11-05 14:48 Arno  
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thats a shame.... :-(

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2019-11-05 15:18 dustin  
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;(

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2019-11-05 15:50 shredder  
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:(

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2019-11-05 16:05 Arno  
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I could release the remaining  dustin  bd11 caves tonight, but i could also wait few days as there are already some fantastic caves waiting to be solved... any preference?

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2019-11-05 16:18 dustin  
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i'd slightly prefer a tonight release ;d

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2019-11-05 16:27 shredder  
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btw i'm transfering the don pedro's bd11 caves to  krissz 's site. i have sentiment :)

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2019-11-05 19:55 dustin  
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cool! admittedly, most of his caves i don't like that much, but firstly, one may not forget that it were the first fan-made games and probably insired others to do own caves as well! and secondly, some of his caves i actually find quite interesting!  
a propos don pedro -  Arno , i remember him appearing in the forum some years ago and for a while he was quite active there, but then he went away as suddenly as he had come...?!

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2019-11-05 20:31 Arno  
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yes, here's his profile page so you can find all posts (4 in total) that he made:  
  
<a href="http://www.boulder-dash.nl/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=133" target="external">http://www.boulder-dash.nl/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=133</a>

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2019-11-05 21:03 dustin  
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wow, it's already ten years ago! i didn't expect that!  
well, maybe i'm also still "prejudiced" about don pedro's games. i remember well that when i played his caves for the first time, i hated the fact that so often there were trapped fireflies which you had to release. back then i wasn't really good at that and exploded more often than not, so i quickly lost the fun... maybe now, after i learned more about it and even wrote an article about the best ways to release such fireflies, i should give the games a new chance... ;d

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2019-11-05 22:24 nesdori  
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my demo free, 42 diamonds :) 43 is possible but i messed up the lower right chamber. that room is actually the only one where i don't know the intended solution yet.  
i think my upper left is the intended run or close to it. upper right has a small short cut. you don't have to break the wall piece which i think is the intended but you can enter using my style, separate flies and then push a boulder on left side corridor when one enters it and leave the room same way you did enter it. i did break the wall because i needed a boulder to do some nasty things :)  
bottom chambers are far from intended.. :) or actually the run from the left side to right evading butterflies is a part of the intended solution i guess :)  
  
 dustin : 1-1! :D

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2019-11-06 01:14 dustin  
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1-1 accepted ;d great run! i just forgot to check for possible links between the four "kingdoms" you could also have used the remaining firefly from the upper-right corner to influence the fflies in the upper left corner and thereby simplify the task...   
  
upper left - yeah, that's pretty much my solution too.  
  
upper right - also my solution, interesting alternative you give in your comment!  
  
lower left - ehmm... not exactly the intended way, i think xd  
  
lower right - alright, then you still have a challenge to find out the intended way! i couldn't even describe you how to get past the boulder mass - sometimes it works out for me and then i ask myself what exactly i have done ;d the rest of this "kingdom" is quite linear, though, you "simply" have to follow the path and time everything right.

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2019-11-06 12:50 shredder  
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 nesdori  grats! awesome run! :)  
  
 dustin : i already have some don pedro's caves in my collection.  
the best from don pedro was imo bd10.

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2019-11-06 13:46 Arno  
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great run! :-D  
  
i'm also very interested in an 8-diamond run according to the intended solution. but i'll try myself too. :-)

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2019-11-06 15:31 dustin  
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 shredder  - overall i like don pedro 5 better, but 10-j is my favourite single cave, although the magic timer could be longer for my taste xd gonna check out your collection!  
  
 Arno  - i'd also love to see a regular run, or let's say at least the lower two parts, since the upper two parts were already made as intended in  nesdori 's run. but i'm out - i've tested this cave so often without even being close to collect all \ in one go ;d

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2019-11-06 15:48 nesdori  
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i actually thought that my upper right solution was different from the intended, if you ran through the boulders when entering the room, it's not that easy to move boulders to hit the wall anymore (and exit through left side corridor is impossible). that's why i thought my entrance was some kind of short cut and the intended uses some partial pillar technique to move boulders to be able break the wall piece (like in cso 4) :)

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2019-11-06 15:50 nesdori  
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right side corridor.. left and right always mixing up :( :)

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2019-11-06 16:15 shredder  
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 dustin , mw in bd10 j is useless ;) you don't need it :P

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2019-11-06 16:23 nesdori  
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 shredder : i see, you can block the flow in bd10 j; would be easier but not faster solution than  Arno 's :)

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2019-11-06 16:26 shredder  
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just wait for amoeba convert and then break the wall to the exit from inside ;) multiple bonus \ :)

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2019-11-06 17:08 nesdori  
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 shredder : ahh! team hi-scorers strikes again! :) i'll let you to do a demo. how's your finger today?

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2019-11-06 17:19 shredder  
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swollen, but fortunately i can play a little ;)

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2019-11-06 20:04 dustin  
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 nesdori  - no, you did the uer-right exactly as intended... at least u to the point where you do what you do with the firefly and the boulder xd i didn't find a way to escape again after just running though the boulders at the top-right corner. so i thought it was necessary to move between the boulders, snap left, move right and push left, just as you did. also the way you broke the wall was intended - either pushing luck or wait until the next opportunity xd  
  
again  nesdori  - look at this.  
left   right  
left   right  
left   right  
write this down 100 times! i'm sure it'll go better then! ;d  
  
 shredder  - i just watched your demo of bd10-j. i remember we had discussed about this hiscore solution in the forum years ago, but came to the conclusion it didn't work. don't know what we overlooked... great! but also i think this is a pity for the cave, as this is the first cave that uses the amoeba-into-boulder-idea. pity that it's no unique solution now.

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2019-11-06 20:06 dustin  
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*upper *up

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2019-11-07 18:57 shredder  
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 dustin : btw bd10 j - probably you guys overlooked the breaking through the exit from inside the amoeba room. this is only one possible way to get lots of bonus diamonds. in other cases, there is not enough fflies/ghosts ;)

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2019-11-07 22:36 dustin  
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 shredder  - yeah, the explosion inside the diamonds has to be at the exact right place! we surely overlooked that!