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2019-11-27 21:55 dustin  
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 Arno , this one beats  Arno  dash 8, cave 11 in terms of earliness! just discovered it when i was writing on the review of don pedro 6! ;d

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2019-11-28 00:57 shredder  
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earliness yes, but idea and cave overall goes to  Arno !

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2019-11-28 07:54 Arno  
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good one!   
funnily, i remember that i saw the effect before (with the ghosts) but apparently didn't take much attention at that time... ;-)

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2019-11-28 11:30 shredder  
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btw. ghosts and pumpkins looks cool :) i wonder about ghosts eyes. they show us a ghost "position" of spining ? hmmm...

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2019-11-28 12:30 nesdori  
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there are indeed 4 phases in ghost animation but animation speed for continuous animations is different from game action fps. animation speed is 12.5 fps for pal and 15 fps for ntsc.

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2019-11-28 17:01 dustin  
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of course, clearly  Arno 's cave is much more thought of!  
  
my theory - dp wanted the fflies to surround the box, then he tested the cave and saw he had the wrong initial directions. but then he saw the dff and thought "well, also nice!" xd  
  
even though this cave is not really interesting in terms of gameplay, it seems to be the true birthday of frank and franka and dff in general!

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2019-11-28 20:58 Arno  
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interesting theory ;-) if the F&f in this cave is indeed deliberate, then i'll consider this cave the dff-birth.  
  
a related question is which cave is the first dff-launch cave? i guess it's  nesdori 's cave 'firefly walk with me' at this site. :-)

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2019-12-01 13:49 trischi83  
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nice fast cave! does not take a long time!  
  
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