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2020-06-07 01:29 DarkStoorM  
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I would love to see the way to get 5 or 6. I'm out of ideas :D

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2020-06-07 01:37 dustin  
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i don't think there is one. but thanks to  nesdori , i've gotten paranoid and always give bonus points unless it's really absolutely clear that there are no bonus diamonds ;d

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2020-06-07 01:42 DarkStoorM  
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Ha! :D I'm sure he will find one

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2020-06-07 04:45 nesdori  
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:D

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2020-06-07 10:57 Arno  
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great idea, and nice way to deal with the "mwall time at least 1 sec." restriction! ;-D

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2020-06-07 11:18 dustin  
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 darkstoorm  - q.e.d. ;d  
  
 nesdori  - you don't need words - you have smileys and hiscores ;d  
  
 Arno  - thy! luckily, the mw timer here is at least exact in a way that it counts frames and is independant of the cave timer ;d

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2020-06-07 12:26 nesdori  
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 dustin , :) :D  
  
well some additional words because the following is difficult to explain using just smileys:   
  
it's possible to violate the idea of 1 frame mw by dropping 3 boulders into the bottom left corner and then by building a big slope and by pushing a boulder along it and then timing the drops of other boulders so that the left side boulder will reach the bottom mw at the same time than the other boulder will reach the first layer. but this is not the trick i used to get 5 diamonds. even if you contruct a slope of max. size there's not enough time to reach the right side slime/2slime which is the more interesting. but it can be used to get an extra diamond if left side slime/2 slime is used. there really is nothing special in my 5\ solution; it almost feels like that this cave was designed to get 5\ :)

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2020-06-07 12:38 DarkStoorM  
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I have no words for that, impressive  nesdori  :D  
  
Can't wait to see the solution. I spent like an hour with no success on trying to get more than 4\

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2020-06-07 12:53 nesdori  
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 darkstoorm , well i spent almost an hour thinking about it too. my first 5\ solution worked but it was quite complex. i then realized that it can be simplified.

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2020-06-07 13:19 DarkStoorM  
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Well,  dustin , you have to be very careful when designing new caves ;D

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2020-06-07 15:53 dustin  
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 darkstoorm  - i tried to, but it didn't help! ;D ;D  
  
 nesdori  - i actually had the same idea when the cave was already uploaded. the fact that the exit prevents the same idea on the right side is pure chance!  still, i wonder how it works in practice. i'm curious! ;d  
when i saw your hiscore, ma other idea was that you might have found a slime-independant way to create 3 boulders falling from the same height. this would also have been quite interesting! ;d

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2020-06-08 18:58 nesdori  
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my demo free :)

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2020-06-08 19:16 Arno  
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great! :-D

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2020-06-08 20:05 DarkStoorM  
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I was fooled! I thought bonus diamonds were 100pts and you got 8 or 9 :O  
  
My 4\ is also free :D

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2020-06-08 21:30 nesdori  
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 darkstoorm , ahh! sorry for disappointment :) i mentioned 5\ many times in my comments. nice 4\ solution; i never considered that one. i think your method can be easily extended to 5\ with the left edge trick i mentioned earlier.

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2020-06-08 21:50 dustin  
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uhh - i have to admit that i didn't consider boulders falling sideways at all! ;d  
  
my idea was the following:  
rbddd  
dbbbd  
ddddd  
**ssd  
****d  
***sd  
*****  
r=rockford, d=dirt, s=slime, *?space, b=boulder.  
if rockford now moves down, down, 4 times right, then all 4 boulders will fall side by side.  
ok, there's one boulder falling sideways too, but my brain didn't extend this concept ;d  
  
someday, i'll buy a new keyboard and then i can demo my solutions ;d

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2020-06-08 22:12 nesdori  
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 dustin , your ascii art is great and clear but i still recommend buying a new keyboard :)

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2020-06-08 22:59 dustin  
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 nesdori  - well, i can't keep up with your level of art, but i loved alphabet soup as a child! ;d

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2020-06-08 23:25 shredder  
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can't wait to see  dustin  solutions! :P maybe this day will come ;)  
  
btw. very cool runs guys :)

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2020-06-09 12:36 nesdori  
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i made another 5\ demo (965 points) using a little modified  darkstoorm  method (the right slope can have one boulder less) extended with the left edge trick to get one more \ :)

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2020-06-09 12:45 DarkStoorM  
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hA! nICE  nesdori . hOW MANY TRIES DID IT TAKE TO SUCCESSFULLY PUSH THAT BOULDER? ;d

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2020-06-09 14:40 nesdori  
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 darkstoorm : i'm not sure; maybe about 10 tries. it's actually possible to remove the lucky push altogether and change it to a boulder drop instead but i didn't want to change your solution too drastically :)

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2020-06-09 20:30 dustin  
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 nesdori , when's your bday? i have the perfect gift for you - light boulders! ;d

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2020-06-09 20:34 nesdori  
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 dustin , it's actually very soon;  donsan  knows it (he knows almost everyone's b-day and age) :)

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2020-06-14 08:59 dustin  
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i checked some old birthday caves but i still couldn't figure it out :(