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2019-11-14 20:49 nesdori  
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one of the most challenging cso caves until the reality check and shock :)

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2019-11-14 21:53 shredder  
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i'm missing one diamond :D

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2019-11-14 23:22 dustin  
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 nesdori  - hehe ;d  
 shredder  - i think i know your solution. you get 8\ from the bfly, right? you need 9\ from it, and for this, you need a new strategy ;d

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2019-11-14 23:25 dustin  
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 nesdori  - did you mean "after" instead of "until"? because before the "reality shock", the cave seems to be very easy, doesn't it? ;d

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2019-11-14 23:35 nesdori  
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 dustin , "before" rather than "after". it was a challenging before i made a reality check and then i had a reality shock when i realized it :)

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2019-11-14 23:45 dustin  
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uhm... it's hard for me to follow you. you shocked me ;d

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2019-11-15 00:31 nesdori  
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 dustin , don't worry; sometimes i'm intentionally cryptic to give some CLUES to other players but not to reveal too much.. :)

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2019-11-15 08:38 Arno  
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i assume there's no hidden exit in this cave?

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2019-11-15 09:10 Piter  
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probably not... therefore i have no clue.

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2019-11-15 12:24 nesdori  
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i'm not sure but i used the blinking exit :)

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2019-11-15 12:28 nesdori  
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another hint:  dustin  is not trolling this time; everything you see is everything you get :)

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2019-11-15 12:43 nesdori  
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i wonder if this cave is like cso 14 so that the flies can be exploded in any order and the cave is still solvable? hmm.. probably not, it looks like that only a specific order works.. :)

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2019-11-15 19:08 Arno  
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if i could kill the firefly along the wall at the position just above the piece of t-wall, then i know a way to kill the butterfly with the middle diamond on the top line, so the exit is free.  
  
but how to get the firefly there without killing rockford. perhaps we need some interference with the butterfly? :-)

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2019-11-15 19:42 nesdori  
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 Arno , your plan is excellent! :) no help from bfly needed.

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2019-11-15 19:56 Arno  
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thx, got it! :-D

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2019-11-16 02:01 dustin  
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 nesdori ,  Arno  - congrat!  
some hints for everyone who likes to try on this weekend.  
  
1. no hidden exit - this is a honest puzzle cave, no trolls! ;d in fact i would find a hidden exit in such a puzzle cave awful - trolls belong in troll caves, puzzle caves should be honest!  
  
2. kill the firefly first  
  
3. the firefly is killed with the right boulder. this is not so easy to achieve. first, the firefly must be forced into a loop next to the right brick wall. then the boulder must kill it as far up as possible.  
  
4. there is still one piece of brick wall blocking the exit, which of course the bfly must destroy. if you have come that far, this should be relatively easy! still, it is relatively dangerous as rockford must touch the bfly from above for one frame.

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2019-11-17 17:13 dustin  
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my demo free! ;d

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2019-11-17 17:36 Arno  
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mine too! :-)

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2019-11-18 01:12 Piter  
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i knew what to do after the hint, even without demo... but still... i can't :-) theory ok, practice fail :D

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2019-11-18 01:30 shredder  
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 Piter  my practice is brutal... hundreds attempts... hundreds fails... 076 kicked my ass ;)

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2019-11-18 09:30 dustin  
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thanks for playing anyway! ;d

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2019-11-18 13:28 nesdori  
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 Piter , i think i know what's wrong with your tries. you are trying to drop the boulder by pushing the dirt away. it seems logical because it's fast to execute but the trick here is that pushing will be too late. you have to first go under the boulder so that you are "behind" the fly and then drop the boulder by running away.

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2019-11-22 12:29 Piter  
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i'll return to this one :)