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2020-06-16 21:34 nesdori  
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my solution probably isn't the intended or  dustin  has changed his principles :)

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2020-06-16 21:43 DarkStoorM  
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This is one of those caves that everyone solves except me :D

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2020-06-16 22:09 shredder  
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clever one :D

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2020-06-17 01:20 dustin  
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 nesdori  - no, the intended solution requires no luck, except that your computer shouldn't crush while you play the cave ;d  
  
 darkstoorm  - according to the live ticker, the actual world population is 7,791,841,111. so apart from you, there're still 7,791,841,106 people who haven't solved this cave yet, or at least not saved a demo ;d  
for a small hint: 2 diamonds required, 2 diamonds visible... but perhaps it's too early to draw obvious conclusions from that ;d  
  
 shredder  - thy ;d

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2020-06-17 01:52 DarkStoorM  
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I think I'm missing an obvious thing.  
  
I tried some bizarre solutions like dropping the boulders on the second wall and pushing the boulder three times to crush the second fly, but I was still one frame off.  
  
That is too much for me :D

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2020-06-17 03:38 nesdori  
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 dustin , i couldn't decide what to do with the "2 required diamonds, 2 visible diamonds" dilemma so i made two demos; one where i pick up both visible diamonds and one where i don't :)

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2020-06-17 04:31 shredder  
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 darkstoorm , maybe look back to the cso 40 for some fresh idea? ;)

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2020-06-17 08:34 nesdori  
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 darkstoorm , visiting the gallery of " dustin 's ascii art" might also give some ideas.. :)

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2020-06-17 13:41 Arno  
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based on the comments, it seems there are two solutions:  
- an "intended solution" with killing 2 ff and picking up the 2 visible \\;  
- an "unintended solution" with only 1 ff-kill an picking up a \ from a converted |.  
  
my solution is of the second category, and i guess  nesdori 's 252-run as well.   
  
but i have no clue for the "intended solution". ;-)

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2020-06-17 13:48 nesdori  
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 Arno , i strongly assume that the intended is the one you did. the other one where both visible diamonds are picked up relies on luck. it's actually close to the "bizarre" method  darkstoorm  described. but instead of consecutive pushes, they must be splitted up to beat the magic wall milling time :)

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2020-06-17 15:03 dustin  
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i have nothing to add to  nesdori 's comment, except that i'm curious to see the unintended 2-visible-diamond-solution myself! ;d

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2020-06-17 16:29 DarkStoorM  
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I can't believe I could not see this solution... :D

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2020-06-17 18:38 DarkStoorM  
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Aww, I thought 253 was possible, but I think that would be still 2 frames off with an instant push.

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2020-06-17 19:12 shredder  
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chagne | to light| in ckit and you will be 100% sure ;)

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2020-06-17 19:58 dustin  
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the cso power quartet strikes again! ;d

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2020-06-18 13:34 Arno  
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my run free; i think now is a good time ;-)

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2020-06-18 13:56 DarkStoorM  
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Alright. Yep, same solution :D

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2020-06-18 15:55 nesdori  
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my both sides of the dilemma also free :)

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2020-06-18 17:40 shredder  
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your 248 solution is awesome!

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2020-06-18 18:17 Arno  
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great!  
  
now the question: which solution is intended?  
  
both methods employ 1 or more cso tricks, so i'm not sure ;-)

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2020-06-18 18:31 shredder  
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according to  dustin 'ss message - your solution is intended  Arno  :)

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2020-06-18 18:56 dustin  
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precisely ;d

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2020-06-18 19:00 dustin  
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otherwise i would surely have used light boulders ;d

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2020-06-18 19:02 dustin  
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oh, but even this would not have helped for the second lucky push! ;d