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2019-10-23 23:50 nesdori  
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another troublesome remake of  Arno 's frightful attack. no trolling this time.. at least not deliberately :)

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2019-10-24 02:07 dustin  
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ok my tries so far.  
1. trying all four possible ways to distract the rightmost ffly, i found exactly one where all voodoos survive.  
2. in this one scenario i get a ffly moving back and a fnf formation. the remaining three flies spin around.  
3. i need two ffly explosions in the lower area. the back-moving ffly is not enough, so i need to get at least one fnf-ffly to the lower area too.  
4. the only way to do so is to time the backmoving fflies movements so that it distracts the fnf with the right timing.  
5. all my tries in this direction have failed.  
6. i should go to bed and dream of fflies that do exactly what i want them to do.

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2019-10-24 16:45 shredder  
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i think there's probably one possible solution. C-5, just one explosion in the middle and kawasaki. am i right  nesdori ? :)

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2019-10-24 17:16 nesdori  
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 shredder , no you are not correct :)

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2019-10-24 19:03 shredder  
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ok... i can see the new boulder :) now 2 blasts are cleaRLY REQUIRED :d

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2019-10-24 19:33 Arno  
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by the way, the bottom section of the original was copied from bd3 cave p! :-)

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2019-10-24 20:07 Arno  
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and... gotcha! :-D

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2019-10-24 20:12 nesdori  
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congrats  Arno ! i was going to give some hints but you did it without them :) this cave turned out to be more challenging than i thought, sometimes difficult to foresee

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2019-10-24 20:53 Arno  
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thx! well, the obvious ways did not work, so i thought let's try something else... :-)

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2019-10-24 21:09 nesdori  
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yes, this is the "6th option" i was talking about in  dustin 's troll cave comments :)

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2019-10-24 21:47 dustin  
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hmmm... so if i remove the dirt from the circling ffly in a way that i get a free ffly and a fnf, i'm already on the wrong way?

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2019-10-24 21:49 nesdori  
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 dustin : yes, that's a wrong way

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2019-10-24 22:04 shredder  
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thats right, i tried this many times (w/o the added boulder) and always faild because one ff from f&f arrived to the voodoo too soon and there was no time to uncover the exit.

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2019-10-24 22:06 shredder  
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after  nesdori  told me that the kawi is not enough, i found a right way ;)

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2019-10-26 09:49 Arno  
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free! :-)

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2019-11-03 01:18 dustin  
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fantastic - i wasn't even close to this solution! ;d