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2019-10-06 17:01 Arno  
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today is a lucky day for many of us, so let's take the opportunity! ;-D

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2019-10-06 18:59 Arno  
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solved without  nesdori 's method; just plain luck! ;-D

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2019-10-06 19:09 shredder  
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I'VE USED  nesdori 'S METHOD AND IT'S 100% SUCCESSFULL :)  
OFCOURSE I CAN "FEEL" FASTER WAY WITH USING TIMER, BUT LESS effective ;)  
  
btw. i'm dying 9/10 times because of ctrl key and i think the problem is not in my keyboard...

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2019-10-06 19:31 Arno  
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well done  shredder ! I think it's quite a challenge to use the method  nesdori  described in original cave...! :-D i've used a simple trick by the way... ;-)

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2019-10-06 19:36 nesdori  
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 Arno , have you tried to use the timer tick method? it's easier than it sounds. even when probability of success is just 25%.

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2019-10-06 19:39 nesdori  
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another trick that comes to my mind is to open another bd-cave where there is a rotating fly and same fps and use the other window to sync the cave which is played.

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2019-10-06 19:44 dustin  
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i could imagine a method that works qiucker than  nesdori 's one, but it would demand constant, hard concentration  and i couldn't yet make it past the second butterfly with this method because i lost concentration...

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2019-10-06 19:44 Arno  
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congrat  nesdori ! that's the method i've used. :-)  
  
i've tried your method, and it's indeed not so hard as i thought; just a precise move is needed when the clock ticks, but that's also when using a spinnig fly. :-)

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2019-10-06 19:46 shredder  
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 Arno  why do you think that is a challenge? :) imo this is very safe. when I'm using other methods, I swear like crazy because of failing ;d

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2019-10-06 19:50 dustin  
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awwwww... this is cheating! ;D  
 nesdori  - the chance of success with the timer-method should be 50%, i think. in 2 out of 4 cases, the bfly does not come out immediately!  
my concentration-method was to count the butterfly-flaps...

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2019-10-06 20:06 nesdori  
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 dustin , did you read the description of the timer tick method from "completely insane!" cave comments? it's always successful if the player is skillful enough. the delay in frames between tries have to be divisible by 4 to ensure that the fly phase is exactly same for each try. so if fps is 7.5, then 8 seconds is the shortest delay which is divisible by 4 (8 * 7.5 / 4 = 15).

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2019-10-06 20:35 dustin  
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 nesdori  - yes, i did, but you have to find a starting point for the method, so you have a 50% chance to do it first try, don't you? that's what i meant...

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2019-10-06 20:41 nesdori  
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oh yes! that's true. for starting point you need some tries.