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2020-06-14 21:49 shredder  
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^ an old 'not ready' cave. imo possible, but not fully tested yet ^

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2020-06-14 22:50 dustin  
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mathematically, i'm quite sure it is solvable. the "problem" is we have only human players... and  nesdori  ;d ;d

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2020-06-14 22:58 DarkStoorM  
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I think the solution _might_ be similar to the one  Arno  did in "TLC 8 INT IV", but not quite sure it would work out here

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2020-06-14 23:00 shredder  
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ok, let the test for being not human (cyborg) begin! ;d

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2020-06-14 23:14 trischi83  
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Easycloefunsan wird auch mitmischen...

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2020-06-14 23:32 nesdori  
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the problem here reminds me of my old cave (not released on this site) where you had to "jail-pack" flies as tightly as possible. the bottom flies can be jailed using just 15*3 box of dirt. that leaves of a lot of dirt for the upper flies either to jail them too or just to delay them enough so that there's enough time to pick up rest of diamonds before the total mayhem starts :)

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2020-06-15 00:22 shredder  
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it could be nice to see your old stuff here  nesdori  ;)

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2020-06-15 00:27 nesdori  
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maybe i should release my old cave before showing a solution to this cave :) the original cave is 30+ years old, i put it on  krissz 's editor 7 years ago and i was going to make few modifications before publishing it but i never finished it :)

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2020-06-15 00:55 shredder  
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that mysterious 'not ready' caves... ;d  
  
btw. do you have your old caves in digital format? runable on c64 emulator?

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2020-06-15 01:05 nesdori  
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 shredder , i have lots of "not ready" caves :) i must be the most non-creative creator ever :) i don't have my c64 construction kit caves in in any emulator format and i have lost a bunch of them. and you have already seen the most interesting of them (like "the great escape") :)

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2020-06-15 01:17 shredder  
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to bad... :( now i'm thinking how to motivate you to change some 'not ready' to 'unsolved' and than solved CAVES :)  
  
'THE GREAT ESCAPE' IS ON MY THE BEST CAVES EVER LIST :)

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2020-06-15 03:25 shredder  
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it's not what you think guys... i'm human! :O   
  
easy cave. realy :)

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2020-06-15 09:45 nesdori  
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 shredder , whoa! :O i wonder what method did you use. i'll try my packing method; i assume the solutions will be totally different :)

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2020-06-15 14:13 shredder  
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my solution is suprisingly simple with 4 steps ;)

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2020-06-15 17:14 nesdori  
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or actually; jail-packing might be an overkill here. i'll try simpler methods..

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2020-06-15 19:55 DarkStoorM  
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Alright, I see the solution! Just need a couple tries :D

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2020-06-15 20:14 DarkStoorM  
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The solution is indeed simple :D

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2020-06-15 20:57 nesdori  
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i think there are many easy solutions and we all have different solutions :) judging by  darkstoorm 's score, i'm pretty sure his solution at least is quite different to mine; there's no way i can get that high score using my strategy :)

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2020-06-15 23:30 shredder  
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well done guys! thanks for playing and i think it's time to reveal demos :) my solution is free now.

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2020-06-15 23:45 nesdori  
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 shredder , first i thought that our solutions would be quite similar but there are some differences later on :)

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2020-06-15 23:51 shredder  
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nice two stage-slow down :) i was thinked about diamond block too :)

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2020-06-16 00:05 nesdori  
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i'm really interested how "the cyborg"  darkstoorm  did this. the score is so good that there barely is pre-digging at all :)

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2020-06-16 00:05 DarkStoorM  
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Nice run guys, my solution is way different :D

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2020-06-16 00:10 nesdori  
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 darkstoorm , wow! great run!  
  
my guess:  darkstoorm  barely does pre-digging at all..  
the reality:  darkstoorm  digs all the dirt :O :D

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2020-06-16 00:22 DarkStoorM  
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 nesdori , I realized I could completely avoid FFlies since there are 5 rows of space once you remove the dirt, so the bottom part is completely safe if you delay the releases a bit , so the flies won't get stuck in space.  
  
Then I noticed I can start from the left side so the fflies can't reach me :D

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2020-06-16 03:17 shredder  
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hah! cool run  darkstoorm  :)   
  
btw. now i'm working on super nasty cave... horror series strikes back!  
  
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