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2020-12-09 20:26 dustin  
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the grande finale! :D

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2020-12-10 19:00 Arno  
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my run free; nice memories! ;-D  
  
i tried to do a speedrun, but probably some seconds could be improved, or even more by different methods.

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2020-12-10 19:42 nesdori  
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 Arno , your speed run path is almost the same which i had in mind. i think i could improve it by 5-10 secs by doing few different choices and not counting pure technical running.

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2020-12-10 19:56 nesdori  
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my demo also free. 6 secs improvement. not yet perfect and probably there's even better path :)

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2020-12-10 19:59 nesdori  
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 Arno , your left side | rumbling strategy is nice. i think that it's even faster than mine if tuned a little bit more.

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2020-12-10 20:31 dustin  
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i used the same strategy. had i known that you would want to make speedruns, then i would have activated the time counter :D

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2020-12-10 20:36 nesdori  
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 dustin , it's ok this way because you can the see the length of the run when watching a demo. i made a comment on p/5 about activating timer in p/1 but i was too late.. :)

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2020-12-11 11:11 dustin  
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ah! well, ok then let's stick to the demo length timer :D

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2020-12-11 11:14 dustin  
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how about re-rebuilding this with original timer and diamond values a n d light boulders so the speedruns become deterministic? :D

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2020-12-11 11:43 nesdori  
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i think the best would be the very original cave with standard boulders and settings. boulder pushes can be pretty much eliminated and those which are left don't spoil the run, they just delay it but there would be delays anyway because of collisions and other running mistakes. if the original is published, i'll try to do even better run than i did here :)   
  
in fact i would like to see all classic bd games caves published with the new engine as well. the old engine is quite deprecated and some caves published with the old engine have layout errors or other quirks.

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2020-12-11 17:41 dustin  
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i wrote your suggestion in the messages. i'll wait for some reactions because if there's general interest to have all bd1-3 caves rebuilt, then bd2-p will only be one of many, which will probably lead to a different cave name ;)