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2019-07-28 18:56 Arno  
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the original cave requires 37 diamonds on level 5, using the same map. i think that is impossible, isn't it? :-)

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2019-07-29 16:48 trischi83  
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hey  Arno ....................................................  
  
this cave exist here on this side on a lower level..........  
  
needed 36 diamonds, bonus diamonds = 0 points...............  
  
so no reason to get the last diamond........................  
  
which is also possible in the original......................  
  
:-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO  
  
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2019-07-29 16:56 trischi83  
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i have seen......................................................  
  
the lower level has another design...............................  
  
the second part from the left is difference......................  
  
:-) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) )   
  
no magic wall and dirt about, so you can put magic wall on the bo  
  
ttom without any problems. if you want...........................  
  
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2019-07-29 17:11 trischi83  
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i have seen.........................................................  
  
100% not solvable...................................................  
  
lower level has 5 stones ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !  
  
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perhaps i should first watched meticulous both caves and than using.  
  
my brain (   :-) ) )   ) and at least write something about this 2..  
  
caves...............................................................  
  
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2019-07-29 21:44 Arno  
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hi  donsan , hmmm... maybe i should clarify the question a bit... here it goes:  
  
\ fact:  
this cave requires 36 diamonds and it is solvable. (i've tested it)  
  
\ question to all players:  
is 37 diamonds also possible? (i think not)  
  
\ background:  
this cave is from the caveset 'bd the new elements', created by  dustin  bachstein for the gdash platform. this cave is based on cave o ('cocoons') from bd2; it's a remix. just like the original bd games,  dustin  made all his caves in 5 levels. also this cave. usually, i rebuild level 5 on  krissz ' site, because that's the hardest and most interesting level. but here i used level 4, since i think that level 5 is not possible. the map is exactly the same on level 4 and 5. only difference (except time) is that on level 5 there are 37 diamonds required...!  
  
since  dustin  usually tests his caves very well, i'm a bit surprised that level 5 is (probablY) impossible... therefore i'm asking whether i overlooked something?

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2019-07-29 22:14 trischi83  
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37 never! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !  
  
100%.............................................  
  
in god we trust..................................  
  
nice to see a hide solution......................  
  
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2019-07-29 22:25 Arno  
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ok. 36 is possible, with some out-of-the-box thinking... :-)  
  
but 37... go  donsan ! we know you can do the impossible! ;-)

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2019-07-30 01:30 nesdori  
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i wonder if my out-of-the-box thinking was actually proper out-of-the-box thinking because technically "it" wasn't out-of-the-box :)

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2019-07-30 21:23 Arno  
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hmmm... i've tried various inside-the-box methods but always lost one diamond in the magic wall.... :-o :-)

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2019-07-31 11:03 nesdori  
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there are many ways to kill the fly without it never leaving its 5*5 box. of course it's done with a diamond. i opened a demo with 521 points to show one way to do it by breaking the right side. my high score uses left side and it's more trickier. initially i thought that left side is much faster but with careful planning right side might actually be faster. let's see if anyone can beat my score now that i revealed a hint :)

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2019-07-31 21:30 Arno  
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thx  nesdori , i expected something like that :-)