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2022-07-21 22:11 dustin  
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difficulty: 6/10

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2022-07-21 22:40 DarkStoorM  
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+2 bonus \ will be hard :D

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2022-07-21 23:03 dustin  
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i agree :)

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2022-07-22 00:41 nesdori  
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i don't agree :D but i might agree with "+4 bonus \ will be hard" :)

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2022-07-22 01:21 DarkStoorM  
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It kind of was :D

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2022-07-22 01:23 dustin  
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 nesdori , i first wanted to reply to  darkstoorm  "i agree but i also agree that  nesdori  will disagree", but i wasn't sure if you'd read all this. now i missed my chance :d

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2022-07-22 01:27 nesdori  
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 darkstoorm , :D i was thinking over this cave and i realized that we haven't reached the limit yet. and i think we still haven't. but i'll try it tomorrow.. :)

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2022-07-22 01:30 DarkStoorM  
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 nesdori , Oh? 5 bonus \? More? :D

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2022-07-22 16:16 nesdori  
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 darkstoorm , there are few different ways to get +5\. but +6\? in theory it might be possible but i haven't figured out yet a way to do it. but i can surely say that +6\ is hard; possible or not :)

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2022-07-22 16:44 nesdori  
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haa, now i at least have a seemingly working theory for +6\! :)

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2022-07-22 16:50 nesdori  
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maybe even +7\.. this is getting interesting :)

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2022-07-22 17:01 DarkStoorM  
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What the hell :D :D :D

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2022-07-22 19:17 dustin  
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these are the perfect caves: so easy to create, so much puzzle fun for others! :d

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2022-07-22 19:35 nesdori  
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+7 bonus \! :D i'm done, +8\ is not just hard, it's very hard :)

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2022-07-22 19:52 DarkStoorM  
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I'm not even going to attempt that :D

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2022-07-23 14:40 dustin  
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here is a modest little no-bonus-run! :d

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2022-07-23 15:23 DarkStoorM  
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All my runs are free, the +7 run is too big :D

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2022-07-25 11:56 nesdori  
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mine 16\ solutions free too. i made another smoother run (1647) with less hassle with flies and with separate timer fly to sync the first mw | push :)

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2022-07-25 12:52 DarkStoorM  
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The only improvement I can see would be a c-push with the light boulder you hold at the end, but how hard would that be? I can't imagine :D

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2022-07-25 13:05 nesdori  
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 darkstoorm , i thought about it but the bottom mw can swallow only 3 |:s until the milling time ends. and the middle can do only 5 (or 6 with snap instead of run through but then only 2 with bottom). so i really can't use the extra | with this setup because i need one more mw :)

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2022-07-25 15:29 dustin  
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funtastic! :d the third ffly serves as frame-counter, i assume?

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2022-07-26 11:50 nesdori  
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 dustin , yes, exactly. first i did 16\ with 2 flies and used one of the flies from the main swarm as a sync fly but it was unreliable because of complex interactions with flies.

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2022-07-26 21:56 nesdori  
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17\! :) now i'm officially done. do  darkstoorm , don't you dare to suggest that there still are potential \:s somewhere :D

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2022-07-26 22:19 DarkStoorM  
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 nesdori , well........ i DON'T HAVE ANY MORE IDEAS :d

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2022-07-27 01:21 DarkStoorM  
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Actually, there is one more, but that would require one more second of milling time, so I don't think it counts :D

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2022-07-27 11:26 nesdori  
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 darkstoorm , yes, this time stacking even more flies doesn't help :) still, i wouldn't be surprised if 18\ somehow is possible.