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2022-03-01 12:18 One4Matik  
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THE LAST ONE!  
  
^ has to be quick, 55 \ are needed to finish the cave, but he has only 330 sec to do it.

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2022-03-05 12:23 One4Matik  
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HINT FOR FINISHING ThE CAVE :  
  
what was the consequences when thanos snap his fingers ?

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2022-03-08 12:11 One4Matik  
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HINT 2 :  
  
to save time, ONLY 50% of the fireflies has to disappear.

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2022-03-08 13:49 DarkStoorM  
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I tried to speedrun this, gonna try again today, almost done :D  
Thanks to the CSO, the right sides of both columns are easier to release, because you can just run straight up without dying.  
Left sides are a bit harder to release in one go, you need some timing :D but it's doable!

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2022-03-10 00:31 dustin  
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i need the time stone only. thanos can keep the others if he wants :d

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2022-03-10 00:42 One4Matik  
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SOLUTION RELEASED (and it's not a perfect one :p )

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2022-03-10 00:56 dustin  
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the reality stone made me solve this :d great challenge!

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2022-03-10 01:06 One4Matik  
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Now we can just wait for the  darkstoorm  speedrun... :)

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2022-03-10 01:07 dustin  
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 One4Matik , your solution looks very nice and strategic, while mine is a complete chaos :d

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2022-03-10 01:30 One4Matik  
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Well, with the cso trick that  darkstoorm  mentionned earlier, i finished the cave with a lot more time remaining...

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2022-03-10 13:36 DarkStoorM  
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It's really hard to speedrun :D a real, full speedrun requires some insane memorization.  
  
Paperwork is possible, but you either have to memorize the frame delays or be good at reading and playing at the same time :D  
  
I still have to solve  krissz 's "Torture Dash 3".  
  
The Mega caves are great for practicing speedruns and memorIZATION. gREAT CHALLENGE, LOTS OF FRUSTRATION, BUT IT'S TOTALLY WORTH IT! :d  
  
Basic knowledge how flies behave and when ROckford is allowed to pass them without making them explode makes every cave easier to solve if you really want to squeeze extra seconds.  
  
Remember, that cave is scanned from left to right, row by row.  
  
In a cave like this, there are four situations where you can skip some awaiting time:  
  
R - rockford  
f - fly  
D - Dirt  
. - space  
  
(1)---  
-.f...  
-..R..  
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In the current scan, if player holds left, firefly gets scanned first and moves right. It will not explode, because it did not detect Rockford before moving. THen Rockford gets scanned and moves left.  
  
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(2)---  
.R...-  
...F.-  
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In this scan, Rockford gets scanned first. When the player holds right this frame, he moves right by one tile, then firefly gets scanned - it does not detect rockford in the adjacent tiles in cardinal directions, so it just moves left. The next frame:  
  
(2)---  
..R..-  
..F..-  
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Rockford is still able to move out the way (still holding right), because he gets scanned first and will not be detected by firefly.  
  
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(3)---  
..R..-  
..F..-  
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When firefly is approaching Rockford (moving left), and moves below him, Rockford will still be able to move. In such frame, the player can start moving and not make the fly explode, because he will not be in that tile anymore, so the firefly will not detect him.  
Rockford can either keep moving left with the firefly or just move out of the way to the right.  
  
Another variation to this:  
  
(3)---  
.....-  
..RF.-  
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When firefly approaches Rockford, he can move UP, then left or right  
  
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(4)---D  
-....FD  
-.....R  
------D  
  
During this scan, assuming the firefly already hit the dirt, it changes direction and moves down. It will touch Rockford, but it won't explode, because rockford detection occurs before the movement. Rockford can move up if the player was holding UP this frame, avoiding the firefly.  
  
I will skip the right columns, because no matter the configuration, when Rockford is scanned first, then fly is scanned next to his right, there is no way it will explode. Rockford can move up constantly touching a wall of flies to his Right.  
  
There is many, many more to this, most of it is covered by  dustin 's CSO caves in many different variations.  
  
Cave Scanning order is a great topic, and with the way how Boulder Dash cave objects were made, it allows creating super complex caves for such simple game :)

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2022-03-10 21:30 DarkStoorM  
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I had to do a normal run, speedrun is too hard:D

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2022-03-12 23:18 dustin  
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yeah, i even considered to put a bd1-f speedrun cave into the cso series because it's just perfect to learn everything about how to avoid fireflies in narrow spaces :d