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2021-01-13 18:46 nesdori  
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part 2 of remix2 of  dustin 's cso 119. this time you need more \ so you can't use the trick from part 1 because it consumes both flies. so you need a new bag of tricks or alternatively ckit or retrograde analysis :)

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2021-01-14 00:04 dustin  
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ok, i found a scenario that leads to the desired result in 8 frames. unfortunately, this scenario seems impossible to achieve, and i think i excluded all other possibilities on the way. mistake-searching tomorrow ;D

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2021-01-14 00:29 nesdori  
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 dustin , well, in the intended solution is takes 9 frames from the point where rockford is forced to move to the point where a fly is exploded so i guess you are close.. :)

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2021-01-14 08:56 dustin  
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 nesdori , then i guess i found a huge shortcut ;) but after your comment, i'll try to find the intended solution as well ;)

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2021-01-14 09:01 dustin  
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ah, or possibly i misunderstood you. you don't mean 9 frames between rockford's l a s t movement and the explosion, do you?

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2021-01-14 09:15 nesdori  
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 dustin , i meant 9 frames from the point where rockford moves from supporting the stack of | to the explosion. after that rockford must be more active than in case of ffly+bfly compo doing which is natural to him :) so it sounds you found a shortcut, interesting.. :)

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2021-01-14 10:30 dustin  
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 nesdori , no, in this case, our solutions are probably identic. and my 8-frame-solution-which-does-not-work was completely different. i will post it as soon as the solution is revealed :) or perhaps it's possible to turn wrong into right again by changing some details. if i find a way to do so, i'll probably make another remix out of it :D

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2021-01-14 10:35 nesdori  
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 dustin , ahh, ok! well, let's compare; my intended solution is now visible :)

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2021-01-14 10:36 nesdori  
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i'm currently out of remix ideas so if you can make a cave out of your not-working-here idea it would be interesting.. :)

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2021-01-14 11:23 dustin  
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yup, identic as expected! :D  
let's see what can be done :D

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2021-01-14 12:13 dustin  
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a few minutes of reflection and i have 3 new cso caves! :D