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2020-01-19 22:47 shredder  
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very interesting! :) i'm trying with vortex+3 and then 5+1, hmm... :)

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2020-01-20 08:08 Arno  
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that's not the intended way, but perhaps it works too... let's see :-D

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2020-01-20 20:35 shredder  
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now working fo far... :(   
...or i've missed something...  
  
i must change the strategy ;D

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2020-01-20 21:02 Arno  
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i do vortex+4, but not 4 in a row, more 3+1... ;-)

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2020-01-21 14:29 shredder  
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i guess spining flies are only in vortex?

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2020-01-21 14:43 shredder  
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..and i should create two independent paths for remaining fflies and lead them to the vortex :)

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2020-01-21 15:28 Arno  
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it's quite tricky...  
  
i use one path leading the remaining 4 flies to the vortex.  
  
but along the way, 3 bflies collide with a single spinning fly. this causes 1 fly moving along another fly (diagonally, like in my earlier "conveyor belt" caves).  
  
this gives the following configuration, which creates the 6-elements formation! :-)  
  
(x = dirt; . = empty space; letters = bflies in certain directions)  
  
xxd.  
xx..  
xxd.  
.r.d  
l.d.

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2020-01-21 15:59 shredder  
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thanks for the hint  Arno ! :) i will try it later, please hold your run for a while :)

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2020-01-22 14:16 nesdori  
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 Arno , sorry for delayed reply. about 4t-&gt;6t transformation: when i found out 6T and tried to transform it from 4t, i just figured out the way in my head and not really tried it. it indeed requires quick action and you probably concretized the same idea. using a falling object to make it easier is nice idea. i didn't check if transformation is possible to do on more than one phase but you probably did?-) i assume this way is impossible in this cave because the dirt area is too small and so vortex-method is forced :)

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2020-01-22 15:27 Arno  
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thx  nesdori !  
  
yes, i have studied all 4 phases of 6-el to find a way to create it from 4-el. i found only one way (probably the same as you figured out by mind), but i could only put it into practice by using a falling object, to prevent rockford touches a fly. i'm working on a cave showcasing this idea.  
  
indeed in the current cave, the vortex-method is intended. :-)

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2020-01-22 17:39 shredder  
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almost ! :D

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2020-01-22 18:39 Arno  
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fingers crossed..... :-)

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2020-01-22 19:09 shredder  
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ok i see my problem. when i set the vortex and single spining fly and then set free remaining 3 flies i got this:  
  
xxd.  
xx..  
xxd.  
.R..  
L.D.  
...D  
  
single fly travel diagonaly with first of three flies instead of second. thats why my formation breaks.   
i must find another way to connect the 3+1 :)

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2020-01-22 19:27 Arno  
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yes, this is the most tricky part...  
  
just another hint:   
  
the bfly which is carried (diagonally) by another one is not(!) the spinning fly. actually it is the first of the 3 remaining flies. the spinning fly is there to push him to the right. :-)

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2020-01-23 00:33 shredder  
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d.  
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d.  
.d  
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d.  
  
spining bfly moves the first of 3 to the right, but in the same time blocks second bfly for 1 frame results with 1 excess space... :(

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2020-01-23 00:39 shredder  
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ok, 1 piece of dirt removed quickly delays the bfly with 1 frame and reduces one excess space :) now i'm realy close :D

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2020-01-23 03:35 shredder  
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boom! ;) \\\

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2020-01-23 07:54 Arno  
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yess! big applause for  shredder , as this cave is definitely a non-standard launch-cave requiring some delicate moves and tricks! :-D  
  
i guess your run is almost identical to mine... it's free now.  
congrat & thx for playing! :-)

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2020-01-23 15:33 shredder  
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thanks for this fantastic cave and some big hints  Arno ! :) great fun!  
  
btw. launch method is realy insane :) appreciation for your design.

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2020-01-23 20:14 Arno  
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:-D