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2019-05-26 15:18 Arno  
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here's my contribution to the horror series! :-)  
  
it contains an idea not used in any of the predecessors.  
  
fully tested, of course!  
  
good luck; have fun! :-D

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2019-05-26 15:33 shredder  
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cave looks fabulous! :) i'll try tommorow :) hi5!

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2019-05-27 11:11 nesdori  
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excellent show! pure horror! :) it was a show indeed because i spent a long time just staring the cave map trying to figure out the whole plot. no more comments yet because i don't want to spoil the fun :) i was going to name my next cave "rocky horror pro" but now i have to change the name :)

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2019-05-27 11:30 Arno  
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thanks/congrat  nesdori ! sauna, sisu & sibelius! :-)  
  
of course i'm now curious if your way is similar to mine, but let's wait a while before comparing ;-)  
  
looking forward to your new horror cave! :-)

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2019-05-27 18:03 shredder  
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ok, im trying. i must fill the vertical empty spots with diamonds/boulders between the voodoo dolls at the bottom section, deliver one firefly and light boulder somehow and transport the firefly on top of light boulder to the left and drop the boulder on firefly to open the path to exit ? am i right?

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2019-05-27 18:05 shredder  
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and ofcourse gratulations  nesdori ! :) hi5!

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2019-05-27 18:30 Arno  
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hi  shredder , you're very right; that's exactly the way to do it! :-)

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2019-05-27 18:48 shredder  
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thanks  Arno  :) now i must figure out how to do it :) please hold the demo invisible for a while :)

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2019-05-27 19:21 shredder  
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i think i've got the top and bottom section :) now it's time to the middle (hardest i think) :)

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2019-05-27 19:39 Arno  
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yep, the middle is the "horror" section! :-)  
  
meanwhile, i've stored my solution too, and hold it for now...

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2019-05-27 20:15 shredder  
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ok, i'll try tommorow after work. now i'm tired as hell... and doing a stupid mistakes all the time... thanks for holding the solutions invisible and keep the challenge for me :)

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2019-05-28 19:22 shredder  
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hmm i'm trying with the mid-section and... damn :D mAYBE LITTLE HINT? :)

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2019-05-28 19:40 shredder  
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FROM THE TOP SECTION I'M SMUGGLING 1 BOULDER, 1 DIAMOND AND 1 LIGHT BOULDER. IN THE MIDDLE I HAVE PROBLEMS. I'M TRYING TO DO A TRIPLE KILL IN FEW WAYS. ALL FAILED :o I DONT KNOW, BUT TO DO A MIDDLE BLAST I'M USING A FIREFLY WHICH IS 'ORBITING' AROUND THE TOP COMBINATION OF TI-WALL, AMOEBA AND SLIME. IN THE RIGHT MOMENT I ACTIVATE THE BOTTOM MAGIC WALL. FIREFLY FALLING DOWN WITH DIAMONDS AND DESTROY 3 FIELDS OF EXP-WALL AND SLIME BENEATH THE MAGIC WALL. BUT PROBABLY THIS IS NOT RIGHT WAY. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SYNC THIS BLAST WITH 2 OTHERS :(

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2019-05-28 19:47 nesdori  
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no wonder you are in trouble in the mid section. you should check your top play :)

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2019-05-28 20:18 Arno  
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some hints:  
from top to middle you need to bring 1 light boulder and 2 boulders.  
from middle to bottom you need to bring 1 light boulder, 1 diamond, 3 boulders and 1 firefly.  
indeed 3 fireflies must be blasted at the same time.  
the 4th firefly can be transported to the bottom using a falling diamond (check my cave 'spinning moth pairs' for the idea; but there i use boulders).

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2019-05-28 20:47 shredder  
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THANK YOU GUYS FOR HINTS :) OK I HAVE GOT TOP SECTION. VERY TRICKY! QUICK PUSHING LIGHT BOULDER ON THE TOP OF FALLING DIAMOND IS AWESOME :) GOT 2 BOULDERS AND 1 LIGHT BOULDER IN THE MIDDLE. BUT... I'M OUT OF TIME, CAN YOU HOLD DEMO FOR 1 MORE DAY? :d

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2019-05-28 20:48 Arno  
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sorry, one mistake in my comment:  
the firefly must be taken to the bottom using a diamond, but this diamond converts to a boulder before it "grabs" the firefly. :-)

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2019-05-28 20:49 Arno  
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i will hold the demo tomorrow as well! :-)

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2019-05-28 20:54 nesdori  
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 shredder , the top isn't that tricky, no light boulder needed to set up normal boulders. you probably did the top using a "long cut" :)

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2019-05-28 20:56 shredder  
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YES  Arno , THIS IS THE WAY I DESCRIBED EARLIER :) I UNDERSTAND :)  I CAN BRING DOWN 1 FIREFLY USING THIS METHOD. BUT NOW, THANKS TO YOUR HINTS I KNOW THAT THIS FIREFLY MUST BE SMUGGLED TO THE BOTTOM SECTION, INSTEAD OF BLAST THE EXP-WALL:) THANKS AND SEE YA TOMMOROW! :)

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2019-05-28 20:57 nesdori  
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oh never mind the previous comment, now i got what you meant :)

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2019-05-28 21:02 shredder  
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 nesdori  THATS ALL RIGHT :) I'M USING ONLY DIAMOND TO MANAGE 2 BOULDERS  :)

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2019-05-29 18:35 shredder  
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guys, the single wall in the bottom section is the vertical expanding wall? :)

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2019-05-29 19:21 Arno  
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yep it is, and you need it! ;-)

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2019-05-29 19:30 nesdori  
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actually it's not needed but makes things easier. carefully placed light boulder would also do the trick :)

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2019-05-30 15:30 shredder  
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i hate this spining firefly bastard which i'll missing everytime... :( instead of fall with the boulder through the blasted expandig wall, this @#$%^& going away... :D but i still trying!

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2019-05-30 15:47 Arno  
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hey  shredder , this is exactly the horror part of the cave, to sync the spinning fly with the 3 walking ones.   
  
but it seems you've find the right way. hold on! you're almost there! :-D

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2019-05-30 15:55 shredder  
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 Arno  i was in the bottom section and f. up a diamond transport  on light boulder... i got the right way, but my execution is... nvm ;) i'm trying hard :)

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2019-05-30 17:03 shredder  
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got it! at last! true hardcore cave  Arno  :) thanks and hi5! ;)

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2019-05-30 17:10 Arno  
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you made it  shredder ! congrat! :-D  
  
i've revealed my solution and  nesdori / shredder  i'm curious if yours are similar! :-)

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2019-05-30 17:15 shredder  
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thx! :D i can see that we have different ways \\\

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2019-05-30 17:20 Arno  
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ah, the top is easier than i expected. for the middle part the same idea is applied! :-)

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2019-05-30 17:24 shredder  
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i'm curious about  nesdori  ligh boulder placement which don't need to vertical exp-wall usage. i've tried many ways and all failed. always something was wrong, diamond or boulder left on closing wall... firefly fall interrupt etc... thats why i asked about this single wall at the bottom, because it was my last hope :)

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2019-05-30 19:06 nesdori  
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my solution free. very much alike yours. i didn't realise vertical wall was supposed to use the way you did it, mine is a little bit different :)

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2019-05-30 19:09 shredder  
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i can't see your solution :(

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2019-05-30 19:23 nesdori  
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oh, now really free, sorry. and i also did w/out vert wall cave :)

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2019-05-30 19:27 shredder  
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nice run! this is awesome :) three totally different approaches to the case :)