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2020-05-12 14:04 Arno  
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on advise of  dustin , i hereby release the level 4 version of cave f.  
  
however, i did set some bonus\ points, since i'm not 100% sure whether a bonus is (not) possible... ;-)

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2020-05-12 19:31 nesdori  
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i don't think bonus \ are possible. nice cave though, this is like level 4.5 instead of 4 :) mr. random seed is an excellent puzzle designer :)

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2020-05-12 19:52 Arno  
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sorry for re-uploading. i noticed that i accidently released this cave with incorrect rockford starting point. this is now corrected.   
  
i don't think this move will change the conclusion regarding bonus\ though... ;-)

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2020-05-12 20:19 nesdori  
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 Arno , actually.. it does! :D now i think one bonus \ is possible :)

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2020-05-12 20:39 nesdori  
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the other starting point was a little bit more challenging. i downgrade this cave back to lvl4 :)

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2020-05-12 22:04 Arno  
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my run is without bonus \\\.  
  
i leave 4\ behind. 3 of them are grouped together, 1 is separate. in my solution (=intended?) i pass the separate \ closely but have no chance to snap it because of a boulder falling above rockford's head.  
  
 nesdori , is the bonus\ you spotted exactly that diamond that i could pass but not collect? (i could open my demo if needed)  
  
i'm actually surprised that with the current inbox location it should be esier to collect that \ than with the inbox at the right side of the central square. (in fact, the reason that i placed it there was for myself to practice collecting that single \, assuming it is easier with inbox closer by....)

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2020-05-12 22:15 dustin  
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thx for the effort,  Arno !

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2020-05-12 22:21 dustin  
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and yes, that sounds very much like my tested solution ;d

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2020-05-12 23:09 nesdori  
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my bonus \ demo free. as you can see, the diamond is caught from the bottom and not by approaching from the upper side. the difference with the previous starting point was that to get to the center room (to get to the bottom) you had to drop two boulders into the bottom right room and those extra boulders were enough to block the method shown in my demo :)

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2020-05-12 23:17 nesdori  
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i tried this method with the previous starting point as well and i was a little disappointed that there were too much boulders. then you fixed the starting point and voila! :D

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2020-05-12 23:25 DarkStoorM  
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Aw come on man,  nesdori  I tried to push that boulder at the bottom part for like 50 attempts and I gave up :D

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2020-05-12 23:27 nesdori  
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 darkstoorm , a successful fast push needed so on average 4 tries should be enough :D

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2020-05-14 01:26 dustin  
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very interesting,  nesdori ! it doesn't come as a complete surprise to me, and i'm happy that at least it demands 25% luck, so i'm still happy with my requirement in the game ;d