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2023-09-27 02:05 altermaven  
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charoite is a silicate that was discovered in 1978. when it was discovered, it was mistaken for a crystal believed to be dyed. natural charoite has a purple, lavender or lilac hue, with a pearly luster. the name of this mineral is derived from the russian word "chary" which means "magic" or "charm".  
  
Charoite has a mohs hardness between 5 and 6.

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2023-09-27 12:56 darkwood  
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 altermaven : 'chary' is ukrainian word with that same meaning, not russian.

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2023-09-27 22:41 altermaven  
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oh, is it ukrainian? well, wikipedia is wrong about something.. thanks for the clarification.

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2023-09-28 06:11 Rob Gilbert  
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to be completely fair, it's a word which is used in both russian and ukrainian, and the root (char-) made its way into other slavic languages a long time ago, words with this root and with this meaning exist in bulgarian, serbo-croatian, and other languages, and the reason for that is because it's an old slavic word which existed for centuries and i guess is derived from a proto-indoeuropean root. when it comes to russian and ukrainian, i think the spelling is slightly different (chary vs chari if we use latin alphabet transcription) but the pronunciation is very close or the same. the meaning is exactly the same.

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2023-09-28 11:56 altermaven  
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well, thanks for the clarification. I'm always willing to learn new things :)

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2023-09-28 19:04 darkwood  
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 altermaven : yes, wikipedia says so, and russian language use this word but it ukrainian.  
example for verification: in the Ukrainian language there is a word 'charyvnyk' which is meaning 'magician/wizard', however, russian has the word 'volshebnik' for it.  
 Rob Gilbert : you are right, I also think that this word comes from a Proto-Indo-European language / Sanskrit.