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2021-07-31 16:23 altermaven  
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yes, the alchemyst design flask kinda spilled, but so will your dreams if you don't shut off the chain reaction by the 50-55 mark ;)

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2021-07-31 19:22 DarkStoorM  
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After trying to speedrun this, I think it's unsolvable without the growing wall "skip" :P

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2021-07-31 20:38 dustin  
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i'm still 22\ short... tough! :d

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2021-08-01 00:13 altermaven  
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that was the entire plan, part of the gimmick requires cutting off the cascade so the exit won't get blocked.

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2021-08-01 15:04 nesdori  
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i think doing the "no cut" is possible. my best attempt was 7 frames too slow (rockford reached the bottom and was able to run 4 steps to the left before collising with the growing wall. some improvement can done in the ffly room and also in some other rooms.  
  
hint for  darkstoorm :  
  
the first room can be done so that the other bfly doesn't go back and that alreay saves many seconds. also doing the first room faster sets a nice sync for the room with one ffly and bfly; it can be executed just my running straight to the right on the upper row and that again saves one full second :)

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2021-08-01 15:25 nesdori  
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finally i got a decent "no-cut" run! i even had to wait for the growing wall before going to the exit :D

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2021-08-01 15:35 DarkStoorM  
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Nice  nesdori ! :D  I was missing the very first part - delaying the bfly, I was losing time, because I had to go back to the remaining diamonds

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2021-08-01 15:48 DarkStoorM  
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I made a few movement errors, but I did it :D

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2021-08-01 16:06 nesdori  
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i just realized something; in addition to the "no-cut", it's possible to get many bonus \ :)

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2021-08-01 16:08 nesdori  
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... so actually you don't have to collect all \ while running to the bottom because you can collect missing \ from the leftmost column if you reach it before the explosion :)

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2021-08-01 16:12 DarkStoorM  
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I actually tried this before, but the Gwall was faster, unless there is "a way" :D

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2021-08-01 16:37 nesdori  
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 darkstoorm , i just thought it about in my head but it should work. just after the explosion, rockford can act first because of scanning order and block gw for one frame. then step back before \ falls and again \ gets scanned first and blocks gw. then pick up \ after there's another \ above it and the next \ blocks gw. you can repeat that as long as there are \:s left on the column and time left :)

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2021-08-01 16:55 DarkStoorM  
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OH! Now I see, I forgot that diamond will drop first! :D

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2021-08-01 17:12 nesdori  
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 darkstoorm , :D i think that after your latest demo this cave is quite much resolved :)

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2021-08-01 20:20 dustin  
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that's actually a very nice cso technique!  :d

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2021-08-03 00:35 altermaven  
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Monster. You broke my cave ;) cheers  darkstoorm

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2021-08-03 00:46 DarkStoorM  
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 nesdori 's fault! :D :D